The state of the forum

Originally posted by It's Face
Ok , so we all know there are problems as Darth so eloquently stated. Now, lets see if we can come up with a solution. Instead of pointing fingers all around, lets agree on what rules would be fair. Maybe a 3 strikes you're banned rule. How ever we got to this mess is irrelevant right now. Lets try and come up with some logical steps to take, and turn this forum around. I know it can be done, especially with all the intelligent minds gathered here.

I've stated before that when I originally posted the Attention thread, things went smoothly for a good while. Reports were way down.

The OTF doesn't have 1/10 the problems we have in the vs forum.

This thread proves as much. We had people bashing and throwing accusations in a thread designed to talk about the possibility of the vs forum closing.

One more time, it's not the rules, it's the posters. Everybody is to blame. Raoul, Rex and I modified and clarified the rules. People just don't care. The ignore option is not used enough.

We have people who want the mods to police and ref the forum. We have other people who want the inmates running the asylum. The current rules are clear. A lot of people on here have no concept of self responsibility.

People just need to grow the **** up.

Period.

Originally posted by illadelph12
People just need to grow the **** up.

Period.

Once again Sho'Nuff for Mod '09!

I agree Ill

There's nothing wrong with the rules, just with the posters who frequently ignore them. They are just between herochat and cbr, without stepping in the idiocy of either of those boards, which is just fine.

And as much as I'd like to blame it on the moderators for not banning some of the idiots who were running rampant on this board, I see their point of view. The ignore option is the best, and the report button should be used only when insults and obvious trolling takes place. Some posters, like quarver zone (🙂) may seem like they're trolling, but it's probably just the way they percieve things. So yeah, ignore is the best. (though in some cases, the stupidity does breach into the realms of trolling, like some of the anti-Supes/Unless you can outprep Doom you can't beat Punisher etc. posts)

Originally posted by Badabing
As I said, the rules aren't in question. The rules work in every other forum. It's the posters of the vs forum in general.

I've stated before that when I originally posted the Attention thread, things went smoothly for a good while. Reports were way down.

The OTF doesn't have 1/10 the problems we have in the vs forum.

This thread proves as much. We had people bashing and throwing accusations in a thread designed to talk about the possibility of the vs forum closing.

One more time, it's not the rules, it's the posters. Everybody is to blame. Raoul, Rex and I modified and clarified the rules. People just don't care. The ignore option is not used enough.

We have people who want the mods to police and ref the forum. We have other people who want the inmates running the asylum. The current rules are clear. A lot of people on here have no concept of self responsibility.

Why are members that continuously break the rules not perma banned ? You think the posters that see this will care about following the rules ? It's a joke the leniency some of these older members that continuously break the rules get around here. So I guess the problem truly starts from the top down.

Originally posted by Badabing
As I said, the rules aren't in question. The rules work in every other forum. It's the posters of the vs forum in general.

I've stated before that when I originally posted the Attention thread, things went smoothly for a good while. Reports were way down.

The OTF doesn't have 1/10 the problems we have in the vs forum.

This thread proves as much. We had people bashing and throwing accusations in a thread designed to talk about the possibility of the vs forum closing.

One more time, it's not the rules, it's the posters. Everybody is to blame. Raoul, Rex and I modified and clarified the rules. People just don't care. The ignore option is not used enough.

We have people who want the mods to police and ref the forum. We have other people who want the inmates running the asylum. The current rules are clear. A lot of people on here have no concept of self responsibility.

In my tenure here, I have done nothing to warrant a warning or even a ban. I post and tend to my business. Its a comic book

Whatever u guys decide, I'll live with it

I will say again, my stay on KMC will be over. Didn't come here to meet friends in the OTF. Came to discuss comics after I left Tagworld

U know I wish u and Paul all the best. Rex is cool also

Originally posted by Badabing
I didn't tell anyone it's a free for all. I said there are other forums with no rules which are like a free for all.

Originally posted by Badabing
I expect people to read the rules and act within the rules. Not a difficult concept.

Originally posted by Badabing
People have the option to use the ignore if they can't reason or get along with another poster. Very simple. Others who continually break the rules get warnings, temp bans and perma bans.

Originally posted by Badabing
Mods are capable people and can assess any problems. People who continually accuse posters or try to take matters into their hands are as much a problem as socks and trolls. That's the main drawback when we want to ban a problem poster. It's a lot easier when it's just one person acting up.

Originally posted by Badabing
More traffic in a forum doesn't correlate into less rules. The rules are simple. Don't bash, troll, spam, use 2-4 curse words or sock. If there's a problem, use the report or PM a mod. There are set parameters added to the vs forum due to the nature of the debates but that's to keep everything to a set format.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Yeah people have the option of using the ignore, but they also have the option of using the report. As long as the person being reported is in violation of the Forum Rules in the opinion of the person doing the reporting we can't really hold it against them can we? I mean if the person they're debating against is actually using an instance of PIS or refusing to post proof then why not report them since a rule's being broken? If the person being reported is actually breaking the rule then tell him to stop. If there's not a rule being broken, tell the reporter why it's NOT against the rules(so the reports not repeated by someone else) and be done with the issue. Otherwise the reports are just going to keep on happening because both the people reporting and the people being reported all think that THEY have a better handle on the rules then the other guy.

That's what people have been doing up until now, and look where that got the forum. There are literally tens of rules-violating-reportable posts in every popular thread, and most of them from the same persons. Low-balling characters has happened for years, and no rule is ever going to change that, and the moderators can't just start warning/banning people every time that happens, since there are quite a few posters who use this kind of tactics. Ignoring them is the best and usefull solution for this forum, imo.

I always thought report button was used to report people who were bashing

if someone debating tactics suck, just ignore them...that'll work far better than reporting. mods aren't here to police how we debate, they're here to make sure we're civil while debating.

I think over the years, people started expecting mods to police the debating rules, which is not their original duty.

We need to loosen up a little. 🙂

Originally posted by Starscream M
I always thought report button was used to report people who were bashing

if someone debating tactics suck, just ignore them...that'll work far better than reporting. mods aren't here to police how we debate, they're here to make sure we're civil while debating.

I think over the years, people started expecting mods to police the debating rules, which is not their original duty.

Anyway, I'll let you all discuss the situation and check the thread later.

Originally posted by Philosophía
That's what people have been doing up until now, and look where that got the forum. There are literally tens of rules-violating-reportable posts in every popular thread, and most of them from the same persons. Low-balling characters has happened for years, and no rule is ever going to change that, and the moderators can't just start warning/banning people every time that happens, since there are quite a few posters who use this kind of tactics. Ignoring them is the best and usefull solution for this forum, imo.

Originally posted by Starscream M
I always thought report button was used to report people who were bashing

if someone debating tactics suck, just ignore them...that'll work far better than reporting. mods aren't here to police how we debate, they're here to make sure we're civil while debating.

I think over the years, people started expecting mods to police the debating rules, which is not their original duty.

The trolls are coming.

Originally posted by The Maestro
The trolls are coming.

that guy was banned

Originally posted by The Maestro
The trolls are coming.

Originally posted by guy222
that guy was banned

And someone made an account yesterday called badahumpsdogs! ohno

I actually lol'd at the name. 😂

i didn't think that was funny.

Here lies the Truth..

The Million Dollar Question

Originally posted by It's Face
Why are members that continuously break the rules not perma banned ? You think the posters that see this will care about following the rules ?

Originally posted by Badabing

The OTF doesn't have 1/10 the problems we have in the vs forum.

"Teh OTF" facepalm

Originally posted by Philosophía
That's what people have been doing up until now, and look where that got the forum. There are literally tens of rule-violating-reportable posts in every popular thread, and most of them from the same persons. Low-balling characters has happened for years, and no rule is ever going to change that .. there are quite a few posters who use this kind of tactic.

Ignoring them is the best and usefull solution for this forum, imo.

Cosingned

Originally posted by Starscream M
I always thought report button was used to report people who were bashing

if someone debating tactics suck, just ignore them...that'll work far better than reporting. mods aren't here to police how we debate, they're here to make sure we're civil while debating.

I think over the years, people started expecting mods to police the debating rules, which is not their original duty.

Two Thumbs up 👆 👆

Originally posted by darthgoober
no law will ever stop any particular crime

everybody interprets the rules differently .. and the reports flood in as a result.

Originally posted by Philosophía
We need to loosen up a little. 🙂

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