Re: John Preston(Equilibrium) vs. Wesley Gibson(Wanted)
Preston can deduce where the bullets are going to be based on where the shooter(s) is standing, he probably can't deduce where curving bullets are going to go.
Gibson can't avoid bullets like Preston.
Probably comes down to who can shoot first, but I'd guess Gibson ftw.
I argued for Preston against Gibson in another thread here (I swear this thread was done already), but Placidity opened my eyes to the fact that Gun Kata works only in Preston's universe, where the shooters are inept morons.
Well, I stated it, and he took it, ran with it, elaborated on it, and I was like "Damn..." haermm
Thread was already done.
It was conclude that Preston won, easily.
The furthest we got was Placidity falsely indicating that a bent bullet ends up in a significantly different location than a straight line bullet. I showed, quite clearly, that it ends up in almost the same exact point. The first time Gibson fires a bent bullet: it curves right around Jolie and hits the target where he'd been shooting it straight on, to begin with. The trajectory change does little for Gibson. What's worse: it take a bit to pick his arm up and fire: Preston can literally clear a room of a dozen highly training people before one person can bring their gun up from their side and fire. Wesley, while most likely faster on the draw, will have no chance to fire one curved bullet. Even if he did, Preston still moves into any position that is safe, regardless, because of the little to no difference at all of were the bullet ends up by the time it reaches the target.
Also, Gibson was seen shooting a bullet right out of the air: but that was one bullet. He can't do shit against multiple bullets and he easily goes down.
RJ: ignoring the abilities of a character, just for the sake of being philosphical, does nothing to contriube to the thread. You can ignore gun kata all you want on the grounds of it being "illogical" to comprehend. But you certainly can't ignore it in a MVF debate.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Thread was already done.It was conclude that Preston won, easily.
The furthest we got was Placidity falsely indicating that a bent bullet ends up in a significantly different location than a straight line bullet. I showed, quite clearly, that it ends up in almost the same exact point. The first time Gibson fires a bent bullet: it curves right around Jolie and hits the target where he'd been shooting it straight on, to begin with. The trajectory change does little for Gibson. What's worse: it take a bit to pick his arm up and fire: Preston can literally clear a room of a dozen highly training people before one person can bring their gun up from their side and fire. Wesley, while most likely faster on the draw, will have no chance to fire one curved bullet. Even if he did, Preston still moves into any position that is safe, regardless, because of the little to no difference at all of were the bullet ends up by the time it reaches the target.
Also, Gibson was seen shooting a bullet right out of the air: but that was one bullet. He can't do shit against multiple bullets and he easily goes down.
RJ: ignoring the abilities of a character, just for the sake of being philosphical, does nothing to contriube to the thread. You can ignore gun kata all you want on the grounds of it being "illogical" to comprehend. But you certainly can't ignore it in a MVF debate.
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Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I argued for Preston against Gibson in another thread here (I swear this thread was done already), but Placidity opened my eyes to the fact that Gun Kata works only in Preston's universe, where the shooters are inept morons.Well, I stated it, and he took it, ran with it, elaborated on it, and I was like "Damn..." haermm
If you're going to ignore feats simply because they don't make sense, then on that same exact rational Hit-Girl can only dodge bullets that are fired from morons in her "universe", because she's just a little girl and dodging bullets is "illogical."
Another example: Superman lifting that island was completely illogical as he couldn't logically have done that feat, no matter if he had unlimited strength/flying-lift. All those millions, billions or trillions of tons of weight focused on the surface area of just his hands/back; he would have sunk into the earth and buried himself through. No lifting would have happened, not an inch.
Yet no one cries "illogical, it doesn't count as a movie-feat" in Superman threads. I'm certain there's many, many, many other movie-feats that are illogical throughout this forum.
Like I said before, it's fiction, we're dealing with fictional characters, it doesn't have to "logical."
Originally posted by Robtard
If you're going to ignore feats simply because they don't make sense, then on that same exact rational, Hit-Girl can only dodge bullets that are fired from morons in her "universe".Another example: Superman lifting that island was completely illogical as he couldn't logically have done that feat, no matter if he had unlimited strength/flying-lift. All those billions (or trillions) of tons of weight focused on the surface area of just his hands/back; he would have sunk into the earth and buried himself through. No lifting would have happened, not an inch.
Yet no one cries "illogical, it doesn't count as a movie-feat" in Superman threads. I'm certain there's many, many, many other movie-feats that are illogical throughout this forum.
Like I said before, it's fiction, we're dealing with fictional characters, it doesn't have to "logical."
well said rob
Originally posted by RobtardI am amazed that you still do NOT get it.
If you're going to ignore feats simply because they don't make sense, then on that same exact rational Hit-Girl can only dodge bullets that are fired from morons in her "universe", because she's just a little girl and dodging bullets is "illogical."Another example: Superman lifting that island was completely illogical as he couldn't logically have done that feat, no matter if he had unlimited strength/flying-lift. All those millions, billions or trillions of tons of weight focused on the surface area of just his hands/back; he would have sunk into the earth and buried himself through. No lifting would have happened, not an inch.
Yet no one cries "illogical, it doesn't count as a movie-feat" in Superman threads. I'm certain there's many, many, many other movie-feats that are illogical throughout this forum.
Like I said before, it's fiction, we're dealing with fictional characters, it doesn't have to "logical."
I acknowledge all movie feats, logical and illogical.
Question: How competent did Prestons opponents seem? You know, the ones who stood still shooting at him?
Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
well said rob