John Preston(Equilibrium) vs. Wesley Gibson(Wanted)

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I am amazed that you still do NOT get it.

I acknowledge all movie feats, logical and illogical.

Question: How competent did Prestons opponents seem? You know, the ones who stood still shooting at him?

What should they have done? Back-flips while shooting sideways? Turned invisible? Cast protection spells? Relied on their invulnerabilty? What in your mind?

They had guns; they fired them and they had the advantage of numbers, so they did what they should have done. He was just too good for them, as portrayed in the film.

Originally posted by Robtard
I'm amazed that you're still trying to evade being a hypocrite.

What should they have done? Back-flips while shooting sideways? Turned invisible? Cast protection spells? Relied on their invulnerabilty? What in your mind?

They had guns; they fired them and they had the advantage of numbers, so they did what they should have done. He was just too good for them, as portrayed in the film.

Walking forward and taking bullets willingly, standing in one spot shooting KNOWING that this is what gun kata relies on= epic stupidity. Ineptness. Idiocy. Take your pick.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Walking forward and taking bullets willingly, standing in one spot shooting KNOWING that this is what gun kata relies on= epic stupidity. Ineptness. Idiocy. Take your pick.

If your angle is: "Preston isn't that good, his opponents are just beyond pathetic." Then that can be applied to Hit-Girl, as many of her opponents did similar. Also, keep clinging to your failed "gunkata only works when people stand still." Stands to reason that if countless gun fights were studied in the making of the art, they all wouldn't be old-west style duels.

Or, what I said and was implied/shown in the film, he's just the best at his particular skill and no one could beat him. They tried to shoot him; they couldn't.

Originally posted by Robtard
If your angle is: "Preston isn't that good, his opponents are just beyond pathetic." Then that can be applied to Hit-Girl, as many of her opponents did similar. Also, keep clinging to your failed "gunkata only works when people stand still." Stands to reason that if countless gun fights were studied in the making of the art, they all wouldn't be old-west style duels.

Or, what I said and was implied/shown in the film, he's just the best at his particular skill and no one could beat him. They tried to shoot him; they couldn't.

OK, let's take this one thing at a time.

Prestons efficiency with gun kata relies greatly on two things:

1. Him being able to predict where and when his opponents will fire.

2. The target being in that same spot when he returns fire.

This really is indisputable. Do you agree?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
OK, let's take this one thing at a time.

Prestons efficiency with gun kata relies greatly on two things:

1. Him being able to predict where and when his opponents will fire.

2. The target being in that same spot when he returns fire.

This really is indisputable. Do you agree?

If you're going to copy and paste, I will too(sorry Imp) this one time, but I'm done.

Originally posted by Robtard
No.

Post the gun kata wiki again if you like, no where does it say that opponents must stand still and it stands to reason that a moving opponent's position can be calculated and factored. Considering not all gun fights (the countless ones studied in making gun kata) consist of olden style duels where two prone opponents face off.

Feeling like a broken record, not sure I want to rehash this again, as it's been said in multiple threads now.

Originally posted by Robtard
If you're going to copy and paste, I will too(sorry Imp) this one time, but I'm done.

Gun Kata is a fictional gun-fighting martial art discipline that is a significant part of the film. It is based upon the premise that, given the positions of the participants in a gun battle, the trajectories of fire are statistically predictable. By pure memorization of the positions, one can fire at the most likely location of an enemy without aiming at him in the traditional sense of pointing a gun at a specific target. By the same token, the trajectories of incoming fire are also statistically predictable, so by assuming the appropriate stance, one can keep one's body clear of the most likely way of enemy bullets.

Now, if someone moves from the position/s that Preston has memorized, the trajectory of their incoming fire has changed.

Did you see that?

I fail to see where "positions" dictates your BS angle of "gunkata is nullified if someone moves and repositions themselves".

Did you see that?

Yeah. And if someone repositions themselves over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over ad fast as HG can. Preston has zero chance of memorizing her position. It's like trying to get a lock on a much smaller, much faster Jet.

No memorization of positioning>No prediction of trajectories. But this thread is about Wesley and Preston, so I digress.

If she had superhuman speed, sure, I'd see that. She doesn't; don't keep making her out to be more than she is.

This is also the Preston vs. Wesley thread, so you should take your epic Hit-Girl masturbation over to that thread.

Originally posted by Robtard
If she had superhuman speed, sure, I'd see that. She doesn't; don't keep making her out to be more than she is.

This is also the Preston V Wesley, so you should take your epic Hit-Girl masturbation over to that thread.

OK. Wesley kills Preston. Quickly and easily. Moving on.

Wesley doesn't dodge bullets...,he just anticipates them 😂

And shoots them out of the air ✅

nah, he's not really shooting them out of the air.

O'Rly? Elaborate on that?