Aizen vs. Trunks

Originally posted by niduin
why do you guys think that trunks is faster and stronger than aizen? there has never been a case where either of them have been comparable in speeds they both just vanish and re-apear. as for releasing his zampacto thats not entirely true he has to releas it just not into a form all he has to do is show the blade to the person if he sees the blade he is traped in the illusion, and also for the argument of aizen not being able to cut him why would you think that? the only reason stuff doesnt hurt them when they are stronger than the oponent is cuz they are consiously using their ki to protect themselfs so if he is trapped in an illusion how would he know when to protect himself and also we dont even know if it would matter aizen has never shown his full power but we do know he is more powerful than all the other captains (before he left) and now he has done who knows what to himself making himself stronger so i think its pretty obvious to me who the winner is.

aizen pulls out the sword makes it look like he is charging trunks and lets trunks kill the illusion of himself then aizen cuts his head off or stabs him in the heart or whatever

Goku took an axe to his head towards the beginning of dragonball. His power level had to have been less than 50 at the time. Case in point, the axe shattered on Goku's head.

Fast forward to Super Saiyan Trunks whose power level is literally millions of times stronger. Flash step doesn't even come close to the fighting speed of DBZ characters.

Here's what would really happen:

IF Aizen could even hypnotize Trunks, he couldn't do anything to Trunk's body with his sword.

Reality: Trunks would cut Aizen in half before Aizen was even aware of his Ki (reitsu or whatever you want to call it).

This is not even a fair match. It is rather lame to setup these fights, imo.

Aizen is an ant compared Trunks.

If there was a fan crossover fight between the two, who's to say Trunk's couldn't just use so much Ki (flexing his Ki muscles) to break the illusion? Doesn't seem very far fetched to assume that Aizen would collapse under such 'spirit pressure" going by the rules of the Bleach universe. Now, in DBZ, they just stand in awe of that "spirit pressure" instead of collapsing and having a difficult time breathing...So, it doesn't look like the DBZ universe characters are susceptible to that...so Aizen sucks it up big time.

In fact, Trunks barely would have to power up before his spirit pressure would be so great, relative to Aizen, that Aizen would pass out immediately. (We've seen that happen already from Yamamato's spirit pressure on a vice captain, no less.)

I didn't want to dignify this thread with something logical because the matchup is illogical to begin with. I feel that it is a violation of the versus forum rules.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Goku took an axe to his head towards the beginning of dragonball. His power level had to have been less than 50 at the time. Case in point, the axe shattered on Goku's head.

Fast forward to Super Saiyan Trunks whose power level is literally millions of times stronger. Flash step doesn't even come close to the fighting speed of DBZ characters.

Here's what would really happen:

IF Aizen could even hypnotize Trunks, he couldn't do anything to Trunk's body with his sword.

Reality: Trunks would cut Aizen in half before Aizen was even aware of his Ki (reitsu or whatever you want to call it).

This is not even a fair match. It is rather lame to setup these fights, imo.

Aizen is an ant compared Trunks.

If there was a fan crossover fight between the two, who's to say Trunk's couldn't just use so much Ki (flexing his Ki muscles) to break the illusion? Doesn't seem very far fetched to assume that Aizen would collapse under such 'spirit pressure" going by the rules of the Bleach universe. Now, in DBZ, they just stand in awe of that "spirit pressure" instead of collapsing and having a difficult time breathing...So, it doesn't look like the DBZ universe characters are susceptible to that...so Aizen sucks it up big time.

In fact, Trunks barely would have to power up before his spirit pressure would be so great, relative to Aizen, that Aizen would pass out immediately. (We've seen that happen already from Yamamato's spirit pressure on a vice captain, no less.)

I didn't want to dignify this thread with something logical because the matchup is illogical to begin with. I feel that it is a violation of the versus forum rules.

Trunks dissapears and re-appears behind him "you never stood a chance" and blasts straight through him....

easy as that

Originally posted by BradBalboa
Trunks dissapears and re-appears behind him "you never stood a chance" and blasts straight through him....

easy as that

LOL

Originally posted by dadudemon
Goku took an axe to his head towards the beginning of dragonball. His power level had to have been less than 50 at the time. Case in point, the axe shattered on Goku's head.

Fast forward to Super Saiyan Trunks whose power level is literally millions of times stronger. Flash step doesn't even come close to the fighting speed of DBZ characters.

Here's what would really happen:

IF Aizen could even hypnotize Trunks, he couldn't do anything to Trunk's body with his sword.

Reality: Trunks would cut Aizen in half before Aizen was even aware of his Ki (reitsu or whatever you want to call it).

This is not even a fair match. It is rather lame to setup these fights, imo.

Aizen is an ant compared Trunks.

If there was a fan crossover fight between the two, who's to say Trunk's couldn't just use so much Ki (flexing his Ki muscles) to break the illusion? Doesn't seem very far fetched to assume that Aizen would collapse under such 'spirit pressure" going by the rules of the Bleach universe. Now, in DBZ, they just stand in awe of that "spirit pressure" instead of collapsing and having a difficult time breathing...So, it doesn't look like the DBZ universe characters are susceptible to that...so Aizen sucks it up big time.

In fact, Trunks barely would have to power up before his spirit pressure would be so great, relative to Aizen, that Aizen would pass out immediately. (We've seen that happen already from Yamamato's spirit pressure on a vice captain, no less.)

I didn't want to dignify this thread with something logical because the matchup is illogical to begin with. I feel that it is a violation of the versus forum rules.

Wait so by your argument is that in DBZ their spiritual pressure doesn't cause anyone a hard time breathing or whatever and so your assumption is that Aizen would be crushed by Trunks' pressure? From your example I could just as easily assume Trunks spiritual pressure is just so weak it doesn't have negative effects on people, whereas Aizens is so much more powerful than Trunks that his does. My argument even actually makes sense....as far as speed....you have absolutely no way of proving trunks is faster than aizen...but we're supposed to assume it's true? Trunks is physically stronger than Aizen as far as we know since in bleach they don't pick up rocks or other random objects to fight with. But you have no proof he's faster, and the only proof about Aizens hyposis is that it's supposed to be unbreakable. And I'm pretty sure there's no question as to whether or not Aizen is the better strategist so why on earth would he even come to fight Trunks without his Zanpaktou?

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
Wait so by your argument is that in DBZ their spiritual pressure doesn't cause anyone a hard time breathing or whatever and so your assumption is that Aizen would be crushed by Trunks' pressure?

Because you said this, you totally misunderstood the post. Try again with your interpretation and I'll tell you if you're right.

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
From your example I could just as easily assume Trunks spiritual pressure is just so weak it doesn't have negative effects on people, whereas Aizens is so much more powerful than Trunks that his does.

No. That would be stupid then. Duh. 🙂

Try again. You're missing it.

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
My argument even actually makes sense....as far as speed....you have absolutely no way of proving trunks is faster than aizen...but we're supposed to assume it's true?

It makes sense to you because you think Aizen even has a chance compared to Trunks. That 's imply not the case. You're just a Bleach fanboy who can't see reason. That's okay. Fanboys are cool, until something else comes along that is better...and then all reason fails.

Yes. You have no choice but to assume it's true because you don't have to assume anything. it's fact. Too bad. 😄

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
Trunks is physically stronger than Aizen as far as we know since in bleach they don't pick up rocks or other random objects to fight with.

Well, DBZ characters are regularly punched through mountains and such...so I agree there.

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
But you have no proof he's faster, and the only proof about Aizens hyposis is that it's supposed to be unbreakable. And I'm pretty sure there's no question as to whether or not Aizen is the better strategist so why on earth would he even come to fight Trunks without his Zanpaktou?

Maybe he's the better strategist. Maybe he isn't. 😐

Are we just supposed to assume that he is because he's awesome in Bleach? See how that works? 313 Going by your logic, this doesn't go anywhere.

I would wager that since Trunks is a genius in DBZ (absurd technology creator, massive business owner...made the company extremely successful when he took over, etc.) Trunks could easily be called an uber strategist.

Now, don't be a fanboy because almost any DBZ fighter can solo the Naruto and Bleachverse. That's just the way it is. 😐

Maybe it would be a closer match if someone made a thread about Yamacha versus Ichigo or something.

what he said...

ok i will ask again, WHAT makes you think that dbz is faster or stronger than bleach so far you have only speculated. just because you say that flash step isnt as fast as anything in dbz does not make it true, you are underestimating bleach and overestimating dbz. show me proof that trunks is faster and could withstand an attack from him and i will concede that aizen wouldnt win, but even if he is close at all in strength he could still esily win with his illusion ability

oh and an axe to the head is a lame example, im prety sure that aizens sword is a LOT more powerful than any axe on earth

I mean, trunks did easily kill an amped Freeza who could easily blow up the world. Don't see why Trunks wouldn't just fly out of reach and Burnin' Attack the guy.

Originally posted by niduin
ok i will ask again, WHAT makes you think that dbz is faster or stronger than bleach so far you have only speculated. just because you say that flash step isnt as fast as anything in dbz does not make it true, you are underestimating bleach and overestimating dbz. show me proof that trunks is faster and could withstand an attack from him and i will concede that aizen wouldnt win, but even if he is close at all in strength he could still esily win with his illusion ability

oh and an axe to the head is a lame example, im prety sure that aizens sword is a LOT more powerful than any axe on earth

I will not dignify your waste of posts any further. You can wallow in ignorance for shits and giggles if you'd like. If I were a mod in this forum, I would have closed this thread long ago.

Originally posted by I am who I am
I mean, trunks did easily kill an amped Freeza who could easily blow up the world. Don't see why Trunks wouldn't just fly out of reach and Burnin' Attack the guy.

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
If Aizens' sword is drawn Trunks can't beat him. His sword hypnotizes people and they can't break out of it. Trunks wouldn't even be able to attack the real Aizen no matter how fast he is because he can't see Aizen. And to the daddue or w/e the name is...your retort to what i said is just to say it's wrong.... you have yet to provide any proof for anything you claimed. This isn't even a debate it's just you say Trunks will win because you like DBZ more. Find a way to prove trunks is faster and that Aizens sword (which is not made of metal like the axe from earth...since it's a magical sword) can't cut him. If you can actually counter any of the arguments I made against Trunks winning I will be amazed because so far you just so he wont b/c Trunks is Trunks.

Originally posted by I am who I am
I seriously doubt hypnosis would work seein' as how Trunks can sense Ki. He'll know where Aizen is at all times no matter how his eyes might fool him. Trunks is fast enough to kill Aizen before Aizen can even think. Also, Aizen has a certain range wit his hypnosis.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I will not dignify your waste of posts any further. You can wallow in ignorance for shits and giggles if you'd like. If I were a mod in this forum, I would have closed this thread long ago.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I will not dignify your waste of posts any further. You can wallow in ignorance for shits and giggles if you'd like. If I were a mod in this forum, I would have closed this thread long ago.

Trunks has taken an attack that wouldve probably would've destroyed Earth, with one hand. Then had it explode right in his face without even a scratch on him. Aizen has nothing that would even break his skin.

Aizen and his spiritual pressure? Trunks going super saiyan literally shoots ppl into the air, and quakes the area miles away

5:50
YouTube video

Originally posted by Terryc250
Trunks has taken an attack that wouldve probably would've destroyed Earth, with one hand. Then had it explode right in his face without even a scratch on him. Aizen has nothing that would even break his skin.

Aizen and his spiritual pressure? Trunks going super saiyan literally shoots ppl into the air, and quakes the area miles away

5:50
YouTube video

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
So your rebuttal to his valid argument is name calling? If Trunks is faster post proof. If he can somehow resist Aizens hypnosis (which is stated to be irresistible) post that evidence. Resorting to name calling and bashing of other posters because you can't prove your side of the debate is very poor taste.

Originally posted by niduin
thank you lol

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
So your rebuttal to his valid argument is name calling? If Trunks is faster post proof. If he can somehow resist Aizens hypnosis (which is stated to be irresistible) post that evidence. Resorting to name calling and bashing of other posters because you can't prove your side of the debate is very poor taste.

Calling you names?

Please, show me where I called you names?

Bashing? Please show me where I bashed you?

Poor taste? Please show me where you showed understanding of my very obvious points.

Here, I'll help you...read this again:

Originally posted by dadudemon
If there was a fan crossover fight between the two, who's to say Trunk's couldn't just use so much Ki (flexing his Ki muscles) to break the illusion? Doesn't seem very far fetched to assume that Aizen would collapse under such 'spirit pressure" going by the rules of the Bleach universe. Now, in DBZ, they just stand in awe of that "spirit pressure" instead of collapsing and having a difficult time breathing...So, it doesn't look like the DBZ universe characters are susceptible to that...so Aizen sucks it up big time.

Now here's the rest of the post to help you:

Originally posted by dadudemon
Goku took an axe to his head towards the beginning of dragonball. His power level had to have been less than 50 at the time. Case in point, the axe shattered on Goku's head.

Fast forward to Super Saiyan Trunks whose power level is literally millions of times stronger. Flash step doesn't even come close to the fighting speed of DBZ characters.

Here's what would really happen:

IF Aizen could even hypnotize Trunks, he couldn't do anything to Trunk's body with his sword.

Reality: Trunks would cut Aizen in half before Aizen was even aware of his Ki (reitsu or whatever you want to call it).

This is not even a fair match. It is rather lame to setup these fights, imo.

Aizen is an ant compared Trunks.

If there was a fan crossover fight between the two, who's to say Trunk's couldn't just use so much Ki (flexing his Ki muscles) to break the illusion? Doesn't seem very far fetched to assume that Aizen would collapse under such 'spirit pressure" going by the rules of the Bleach universe. Now, in DBZ, they just stand in awe of that "spirit pressure" instead of collapsing and having a difficult time breathing...So, it doesn't look like the DBZ universe characters are susceptible to that...so Aizen sucks it up big time.

In fact, Trunks barely would have to power up before his spirit pressure would be so great, relative to Aizen, that Aizen would pass out immediately. (We've seen that happen already from Yamamato's spirit pressure on a vice captain, no less.)

I didn't want to dignify this thread with something logical because the matchup is illogical to begin with. I feel that it is a violation of the versus forum rules.

Now, please, let me know when Aizen or any character in bleach can take city destroying attacks and above, and then we'll talk. Also, let me know when any Bleach character even approaches 1/1000 the Ki/reitsu energy of a Super Saiyan.

If you still didn't understand my post, you should stop posting. Seriously. 😐