Aizen vs. Trunks

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Mindset Senior Member

Originally posted by niduin
ok first of all, you still havent proven that he is faster so thats void until you do. second, once someone see's the sword they are trapped in the illusion (its not hypnosis, he simply controlls all the sences) and it doesnt matter where they are they will be trapped in the illusion after that. and finnaly he would not be able to sence aizen 1 he wouldnt even know he is in an illusion and 2 he controlls ALL the sences so even if he knew he was in an illusion he would only sence what aizen gives him to sence
How is the controlling of someone's senses not hypnosis?

dadudemon Senior Member
Originally posted by Mindset
How is the controlling of someone's senses not hypnosis?

I would consider Aizen's hypnosis to be "complete" or "perfect". See my post for the only way it could be disabled.

niduin Son of the King

Originally posted by Mindset
How is the controlling of someone's senses not hypnosis?
because hypnosis is controlling the person, and controlling senses simply controlls what they see/hear etc. so they still have free will just dont know what they are looking at

I am who I am Saikyo Pharaoh Sol Radguy

Originally posted by niduin
ok first of all, you still havent proven that he is faster so thats void until you do. second, once someone see's the sword they are trapped in the illusion (its not hypnosis, he simply controlls all the sences) and it doesnt matter where they are they will be trapped in the illusion after that. and finnaly he would not be able to sence aizen 1 he wouldnt even know he is in an illusion and 2 he controlls ALL the sences so even if he knew he was in an illusion he would only sence what aizen gives him to sence
Goku and Freeza are fast enough to circle Planet Namek with in minutes. Trunks is a like 100X better than Freeza. Until Aizen can actually move across the earth in minutes, he is slower, BY FAR. It would take Aizen years just to find the Dragon Balls, lol.

Trunks can destroy the ENTIRE Earth before Aizen even puts his hand on his blade. You are wankin' Aizen's powers to make'im sound invincible but that aint true. Aizen's power has limits, doubt he's gonna beat Ichigo, and he's FAR weaker than Trunks.

Aizen controls all 5 senses. The ability to feel chi is a 6th sense. It's the sense you use when the other 5 fail you. Aizen can't manipulate that. Trunks will shoot a city vapin' blast in what ever direction his chi is in. That simple.

niduin Son of the King

Originally posted by I am who I am
Goku and Freeza are fast enough to circle Planet Namek with in minutes. Trunks is a like 100X better than Freeza. Until Aizen can actually move across the earth in minutes, he is slower, BY FAR. It would take Aizen years just to find the Dragon Balls, lol.

Trunks can destroy the ENTIRE Earth before Aizen even puts his hand on his blade. You are wankin' Aizen's powers to make'im sound invincible but that aint true. Aizen's power has limits, doubt he's gonna beat Ichigo, and he's FAR weaker than Trunks.

Aizen controls all 5 senses. The ability to feel chi is a 6th sense. It's the sense you use when the other 5 fail you. Aizen can't manipulate that. Trunks will shoot a city vapin' blast in what ever direction his chi is in. That simple.

see thats what i was looking for, thank you verry much. yeah i agree that he is definately stronger aizen, but as far as killing him before he pulls the blade out (i agree that he could) he wouldnt do that for one thing he ould have no way of knowing he would be in an illusion so he would have verry little reson to stop him from unsheathing his weapon, and thats just not how it works in either universe they alway let the other person unleash their ultimat forms and for all trunks knows thats not anything to worry about, i submit that aizen is weaker than trunks but i do think that he could kill him with a blind attack. i forgot that it was 5 sences thanks for reminding me so yeah i supposed he could sence aizen with the ki/spirit energy sencing however he wouldnt even know he would have to there would be absolutly no indication that he would be in an illusion

LDHZenkai Evergreen Oldboy

Originally posted by I am who I am
Goku and Freeza are fast enough to circle Planet Namek with in minutes. Trunks is a like 100X better than Freeza. Until Aizen can actually move across the earth in minutes, he is slower, BY FAR. It would take Aizen years just to find the Dragon Balls, lol.

Trunks can destroy the ENTIRE Earth before Aizen even puts his hand on his blade. You are wankin' Aizen's powers to make'im sound invincible but that aint true. Aizen's power has limits, doubt he's gonna beat Ichigo, and he's FAR weaker than Trunks.

Aizen controls all 5 senses. The ability to feel chi is a 6th sense. It's the sense you use when the other 5 fail you. Aizen can't manipulate that. Trunks will shoot a city vapin' blast in what ever direction his chi is in. That simple.


Uhm, if Aizen can't manipulate ki energy then how was it that he hypnotized everyone in the Gotei 13 and they thought all along that the fake Aizen was actually the real one? And again if they're fighting why would Aizen enter in a battle with someone who he would know is so powerful (since everyone says his ki's insanely powerful Aizen would sense that) without having his zanpaktou out? He's already shown a lot more strategic planning than Trunks ever has. Yet we're supposed to believe that Trunks just gets the first hit b/c he's Trunks and DBZ is cooler?! And we're not saying he's invincible just that according to everything we know at the moment his Hypnosis he does is unbreakable. And when has Trunks shown the ability to track someone to their exact spot by sensing their Ki? He wouldn't even know to do that b/c as far as he knows the illusionary Aizen is the real one.

Mairuzu Old School Cool

Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
Is Trunks now an idiot?

If Aizen were to make himself look like the sun but Trunks was not injured, he would know that it was bullshit.

And he needs to release his Zanpakuto to do that, he can't do that before Trunks punches a hole through him.

drylaugh

i couldnt help but laugh. this was great

LDHZenkai Evergreen Oldboy

Originally posted by Mairuzu
drylaugh

i couldnt help but laugh. this was great


what's really funny is how no one seems to be able to understand that if Aizen is controlling what Trunks sees then trunks is going to not know what he's attacking.....erego flying into the sun b/c he doesn't know it's there and doesn't feel the heat from it.

niduin Son of the King

yeah as far as power goes trunks has it, but because of the hypnotism he wins, and like ldh said the captains and other shinigami can also senc "ki energy" also known as spirit energy and they were all fooled also. the only way that trunks can win this is if he knew about the sword before hand and closed his eyes at the beggining before he pulled his sword out

Mairuzu Old School Cool

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
what's really funny is how no one seems to be able to understand that if Aizen is controlling what Trunks sees then trunks is going to not know what he's attacking.....erego flying into the sun b/c he doesn't know it's there and doesn't feel the heat from it.
well, thats what you would do, who knows what aizen would actually do.

maybe he'll find trunks... attractive? might, you know, do other things to his body.

Symmetric Chaos Fractal King

If Trunks decided his first move was going to be to kill Aizen he'd win. Sadly he's a DBZ character.

niduin Son of the King

well saying he is a DBZ character actually hurts your argument, cuz in dbz they always talk for 10 episodes before fighting at all in wich time aizen would have already traped him in an illusion

Symmetric Chaos Fractal King
Originally posted by niduin
well saying he is a DBZ character actually hurts your argument, cuz in dbz they always talk for 10 episodes before fighting at all in wich time aizen would have already traped him in an illusion

*sigh* Reread my post.

niduin Son of the King

i know i was just stating that you contradicting yourself by saying it that way, sorry if i wasnt clear, i was simply saying that because he is a dbz character his first move wouldnt be to kill him, it would be to talk about why he wants to...whatever

LDHZenkai Evergreen Oldboy

Originally posted by Mairuzu
well, thats what you would do, who knows what aizen would actually do.

maybe he'll find trunks... attractive? might, you know, do other things to his body.


I think you might have something here. Maybe that's what Aizen has really been using his Bankai for.

leonheartmm Senior Member

spite, even if he is under complete hypnosis, he unleashes an energy wave which destroys the entire planet. besides, how exactly is aizen going to DAMAGE him???

Symmetric Chaos Fractal King
Originally posted by niduin
i know i was just stating that you contradicting yourself by saying it that way, sorry if i wasnt clear, i was simply saying that because he is a dbz character his first move wouldnt be to kill him, it would be to talk about why he wants to...whatever

That was the implication of my post . . .

dadudemon Senior Member

Originally posted by leonheartmm
spite, even if he is under complete hypnosis, he unleashes an energy wave which destroys the entire planet. besides, how exactly is aizen going to DAMAGE him???

You're being too logical. This debate isn't about being logical, it's about being a fanboy of Aizen. Didn't you get the memo?

Csdabest Senior Member

Trunks powers up. And the lightning he admits from his bodies kills Aizen

dadudemon Senior Member
Originally posted by Csdabest
Trunks powers up. And the lightning he admits from his bodies kills Aizen

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