Originally posted by Battlehammeragain im posting proof that hes been in real wushu tournaments and your still bitching. cant admit when someone proves a point. GROW UP.
how does that match up to what I posted in the slightest? I listed worl class titles in MA. You listed a bunch of random shit about Li preformances..........are you trying to make your self look bad?
did you even read the whole page ?
Originally posted by D_Dude1210
Muay Thai is a variation of Kickboxing, Jiu Jitsu focuses more on grappling and submissions than stand up, so does Judo and Wrestling (tho Wrestling clinch and stand up submissions do exist but are rare in MMA), karate has been pretty much beat up by most variations of Kickboxing.I DO (tho I admit, mistakenly) consider Sanshiu/Sanda as a variation of Kickboxing. 🙂
Oh, and GSP would own em all.
Muay thai diffferent however, just sk anderson silva.
Judo all about throws.
Depends on the style of wrestling.
Really tell that to machidea.
Originally posted by Mindset
Kick Boxing actually came from Muay Thai (partly), not the other way around.
I know. Thing is, I've always considered "kickboxing" as a general description of a style with multiple variations. Kinda like "grappling" is the main style with several variations. I do admit my choice of wordings might be erroneous.
Originally posted by chomperx9
again im posting proof that hes been in real wushu tournaments and your still bitching. cant admit when someone proves a point. GROW UP.did you even read the whole page ?
Li started training at the Beijing wushu academy at age eight (wushu is China's national sport, largely a performance version of various martial art styles)
key word preformances.
This is just rediculous. Your listing peformances base touraments as being better then real fighting touraments. It just stupid.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
yes I skimmed it. They were preformances.Li started training at the Beijing wushu academy at age eight (wushu is China's national sport, largely a performance version of various martial art styles)
key word preformances.
This is just rediculous. Your listing peformances base touraments as being better then real fighting touraments. It just stupid.
here you go MC hammer
http://www.hkmdb.com/db/people/bio.mhtml?id=4790&display_set=eng
And Wrestling isn't rare in MMA.
You probably just don't recognize it.
Randy Couture, Chuck Liddell, Quinton Jackson, Dan Henderson, Matt Hughes, Rashad Evans, Tito Ortiz, Clay Guida, Keith Jardine, Roger Huerta, and Gray Maynard all use wrestling and have wrestling background.
These are some of the top fighters in UFC.
Originally posted by chomperx9
here you go MC hammerhttp://www.hkmdb.com/db/people/bio.mhtml?id=4790&display_set=eng
Originally posted by Battlehammeragain making up excuses i post info on him and you say its shit but you scoping out chuck norris stuff on the net thats supposed to be real every time but when somone else makes a point and proves something they are wrong right ? they probably didnt list the names cause they where nobody famous like chuck or li. just because some fighters havent been on tv doesnt mean they are not good fighters. there are 1000s of great martial artists all over the world that none of us know about.
They were preformances based wtf dont you get.........just becuases it says tourament doesrnt mean shit. He did not fight anyone. It was all preformances. Notices how there no listing of people he actaully fought?
Originally posted by Battlehammer
Muay thai diffferent however, just sk anderson silva.Judo all about throws.
Depends on the style of wrestling.
Really tell that to machidea.
Tho they like to call Machida as a good karate fighter, I really see a lot of Kickboxing and wrestling in his style.
I'm a red belt JKA Karate myself, not many of the techniques Machida uses can really be called Karate to me, haha.
Originally posted by chomperx9
again making up excuses i post info on him and you say its shit but you scoping out chuck norris stuff on the net thats supposed to be real every time but when somone else makes a point and proves something they are wrong right ?
can you read what that says?
Chuck Norris fought in actaull fighting touraments. He fought people. Li competed in who could do the best dance moves.........there no fighting involved, he doesent have an opponet. do you get it now? Or do I need to spell it out clearer.
Originally posted by Mindset
And Wrestling isn't rare in MMA.You probably just don't recognize it.
Randy Couture, Chuck Liddell, Quinton Jackson, Dan Henderson, Matt Hughes, Rashad Evans, Tito Ortiz, Clay Guida, Keith Jardine, Roger Huerta, and Gray Maynard all use wrestling and have wrestling background.
These are some of the top fighters in UFC.
Who said Wrestling was rare in MMA? O_o
Back in the day, my fave fighter was Coleman and he was mostly Wrestling ground and pound.
I meant Wrestling is rare as a STAND UP technique. It's a ground technique.
Originally posted by D_Dude1210
Tho they like to call Machida as a good karate fighter, I really see a lot of Kickboxing and wrestling in his style.I'm a red belt JKA Karate myself, not many of the techniques Machida uses can really be called Karate to me, haha.
Originally posted by Battlehammerthey where tournaments put your specs on old timer and click on that last link i posted. and where the hell does it say li's opponents are dancers ? again your just making up crap to defend texas ranger
wushu is China's national sport, largely a performance version of various martial art stylescan you read what that says?
Chuck Norris fought in actaull fighting touraments. He fought people. Li competed in who could do the best dance moves.........there no fighting involved, he doesent have an opponet. do you get it now? Or do I need to spell it out clearer.
Originally posted by Battlehammerwhats the point of me listing them your just gonna say those guys dont exist or that website isnt cannon. i know your game now
champex come on show us a listing of Jet Li fights, and I mean his actaul opponets. If he actaully fought people there be listings of them, just like Chuck Norris has.