Caedus Vs. Bane

Originally posted by Eminence
For all the uneducated tools and blaxicans out there, that wasn't me. It was the Nebaris sock Faunus.

I never said it was you...

I didn't say you said it was me.

Originally posted by Nephthys
You.....do know that's all true right?

Actually, it's mostly distorted, aggrandized or twisted out of context.

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Actually, it's mostly distorted, aggrandized or twisted out of context.

Though there are sparks of truth in there.

Of course.

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Of course.

Didn't Luke master the art of lightsaber combat? I assume that he does know all lightsaber forms. In Invincible, didn't he teach Jaina the shatterpoint technique?

Bump.

Edit!

With Orbalisks, Bane has the advantage. Without the Orbalisks, Caedus has the advantage. They are virtually even in this fight. I would think that Bane has a greater command of the dark side, while Caedus has a greater overall command of the force, knowing more techniques as well.

No. Caedus is heavily outclassed in this situation. He can compete with the likes of Dooku and Vader but Bane is on an entirely different level.

Erm... why exactly did you respond via PM?

slash, i am hereby accusing you of bumping this, just because you wanted to see what nebaris would say! Am i right?
(which is very helpful to neb by the way)

I think bane, because of Orbalisks, but Caedus without. The fact that he could just stay on the offensive constantly helps him a great deal. (like it did in his fight in ROT)

Also, i have a problem with calling Caedus a top-tier saber-duelists. yes, the narrator's call him this, but in almost every single fight, he gets debilitatingly injured.

But, what exactly has Caedus demonstrated, really? The sheer scale of his abilities, both in power and in precision, have never been demonstrated to really be anything special at all. He has a great knowledge base in both scale and variety, and some unique/rare abilities that grant him some nice advantages, sure, but nothing indicates that he can operate at a level of power or precision even close to that the likes of Bane can.

Originally posted by truejedi
Also, i have a problem with calling Caedus a top-tier saber-duelists. yes, the narrator's call him this, but in almost every single fight, he gets debilitatingly injured.

Easy, killer.

Kind've makes Luke retarded if he gets critically injured in a duel with a man who is not a top tier duelist or Force user, despite the fact that [Luke] had battle rage, the element of surprise, and third party interference.

Originally posted by Gideon
Easy, killer.

Kind've makes Luke retarded if he gets critically injured in a duel with a man who is not a top tier duelist or Force user, despite the fact that [Luke] had battle rage, the element of surprise, and third party interference.

shhh... (i was trying to sneak one by without giving up the other gideon, why call me out like that? 🙁 )

Did luke actually get sabered? I have the material. I will look, but i thought he just got caught in the vong machine. (not that it makes a lot of difference how he was actually injured... but its at least a minor point)

And i still say its Jacen's own stupidity that Luke caught him by surprise. (thanks to ben stupidly telling him over and over that Luke was right behind him)

Oh, and 3rd party interference kept Luke from killing Caedus BEFORE luke took a scratch. That's fact. (in fact, that's a brand new point i just thought of! yay!! its ben's fault luke didn't own!!!)

I'll get the quote for that.

meh, luke was already pretty injured by that first time.

Pg. 259 of inferno,
He raises his lightsaber to kill a helpless Jacen, and Ben stops him with "Wait!" "Let me do it" Then luke has a conversation with ben, in the meantime Jacen gets free and they go back to fighting.
But luke had already been:

1. kicked in the ribs
2. crushed for a few minutes by a bed of thorns
3. Punched in the ribs again
4. kick in the side of the knee(something popped)

Then he got control (he had heaped out more punishement on Jacen than he had recieved at this point, but still, he was hardly unscathed.)

Clearly the reason i never had this original thought before was because it was bogus.

I already covered that in PH. Go look, now, and then cite my glory.

Just ignore the bad arguments. 😐

Bane sucks!!!1!1

Srsly though, the way people talk about him, makes it seem like he's number 2 of the Sith Lords.

Originally posted by Eminence
I already covered that in PH. Go look, now, and then cite my glory.

Just ignore the bad arguments. 😐

i went back to October 08 man, didn't see anything. Mighta missed it. I would never do you the disservice of citing your bad arguments anyway.

My favorite confrontation in all of star wars is still the jacen sitting in his chair unable to move one. Anytime anyone tries to put Jacen on Luke's level, i can always bring that up. (even if my new argument fails utterly)