Kain vs Mortal Pyron

Originally posted by I am who I am
Peeps know Demitri can't beat Pyron.

It's like a cowboy killin' almost erbody on the planet leavin' only Japan. Then says "Y'all use Katanas, what are those? I'll fight on your level." Put away his gun and challenges the best samurai in the world to a sword fight and gives him the challenge of his life but eventually looses. How is this bad for Pyron?

And Demetri has no speed feats? The guys forward dash makes him vanish and appear behind you or in front of you and he teleport.

It is bad for Pyron because it proves that his pride makes him an idiot. Why else would you fight and let someone win when you can do better without trying?

Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
1. When.

2. He hit him with an attack which ripped reality open. He did not teleport him, and I have shown you this already, look up the fvcking respect thread, I am not getting it again.

3. But we must assume they DO have it, right!? 😱 That is a baseless assumption, and it is actually a use of the Equivocation fallacy, shut the fvck up. And why are you continuing to argue this? What does it matter if Demitri can tackle Pyron, that doesn't prove Kain can.

4. Speed mattered little? So they stood in one place? You're picking at straws to try to weasel your way out of the fact that Kain cannot handle Pyron's speed, fact is, Kain CAN'T.

5. No he didn't, and Pyron shoot a small blast which knocked Demitri back that was over the roof, he did not attack the roof directly. And then we see that Pyron was able to send Demitri directly through the castle itself, sending it crashing to the ground.

1. Blood omen, shown the proof so stop trying to play "silly bugger"

2. So its not reality warping anything, the attack simply sent the objects through reality, was that not when he blasted a piece off his body as well?

3. No we dont....ime simply cutting apart your argument, not fueling one of my own.....without your arguments with any official or factual backing they fall flat....meaning I dont need an argument to contend with it.

4. Dont get mad just because your evidence does not support your baseless assumptions, now go and cry in another section of KMC, it cant be much fun for you me tooling you in several forums at once can it?

5. Show me please

another BT ***** fight ? sigh
i think every1 shud get a clue and stop making thread about the forgettable vampire.

Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
And Kain can't rip out souls without cutting them with the Reaver, which won't happen, he is too slow.

Kain slows down time?

Originally posted by LLLLLink
It is bad for Pyron because it proves that his pride makes him an idiot. Why else would you fight and let someone win when you can do better without trying?

He even admits he doesn't "understand the concept of death." If Pyron was dying he wouldn't even know it.

Originally posted by I am who I am
Pyron actually loosed to Demitri purposely. He could have won but instead opted out to lose wit honor. And in all honesty...he might not be dead, just inside Demitri. He is stated numerous times to be virtually immortal.

Don't know if peeps realize this or not, but the guy is an honorable fighter. Who isn't that much of a bad guy.

(As said by Alucard)Noone is truly immortal/invincible. Everyone can be defeated.

Spirit Death Gained from: Dark Eden
Kain's quote: "Tis a spell worthy of the Necromancer himself. This allows me to dissect a creature's soul from its vessel of flesh. For these poor wretches, only oblivion awaits."

Kain could use this spell to rip a creature's soul from its body, causing instant death to most enemies.

@Burning Thought: What will Kain do if Pyron takes his little Soul Reaver away?

Spells
In Blood Omen there were a total of thirteen spells that Kain could acquire from various places in Nosgoth. Some, like 'Energy Bolt', were essential, and he could not progress far without them.

He gains them canoncially? If i'm not mistaken; It would be like saying Kain gets his Dark Gifts in Blood Omen 2. Which is canon(?)

Originally posted by Gumachi

@Burning Thought: What will Kain do if Pyron takes his little Soul Reaver away?

He gains them canoncially? If i'm not mistaken; It would be like saying Kain gets his Dark Gifts in Blood Omen 2. Which is canon(?)

Not going to happen but if he somehow managed to take the reaver it would do little, Kain can already do almost all the powers he needs without the Reaver, the Reaver simply gives him access to the Concepts of the pillars. Besides Pyron would only find out too late when the Sword has slashed him that its actually got a living spirit inside it, hungry for a soul like Pyron.

Yes he does get Dark gifts in Blood omen 2, so?

Didn't he get Dark Gifts in BO2 like he did in BO? So wouldn't that be canoncially?

Their both canon, TGE is talking bullshit because he doesnt like the BO spells because their vastly powerful and often overpowered.

Heh, Kain was powerful as hell after Blood Omen(Bascially he is/was a God). He was so powerful, that they had to tone him down(in BO2).

yh, well he was overpowered, you could make yourself invincible, wipe all the enemies off the screen wih lightning storm and control souls, by the end of the game almost all the attacks were one hit kills.

Thing is, by the end of Defiance he is beyond most Gods in gaming fiction.

So his most powerful form is End-of-Defiance?

Indeed, he has the full power and acess to the magic regulation, because he is now able to take on his destiny as the scion of balance and guardian.

Raziel jumps Kain, while Pyron is like WTF.

Originally posted by Gumachi
(As said by Alucard)Noone is truly immortal/invincible. [b]Everyone can be defeated.[/color] [/B]

You know what I mean. Besides, immortal means unable to die of old age.

The fact that Pyron is made of pure energy and can not be harmed by physical attacks or be seen by the naked eye unless he wills it so leads me to believe he is damn near unkillable.

I'm positive Kain lacks the means to beat Pyron, especially seein'as how Pyron has never once been shown any where near his full power which is only limited to the boundaries of his mind which is at he the level of the final evolution of all creatures.

Fair enough.

Kain does not typically use physical means anyway...

By physical, I mean attacks used to damage'im. He can not be hurt.