Kain vs Mortal Pyron

Started by Burning thought4 pages

Physically he cannot be hurt, his soul is fair game, and he is also open to conceptual attack such as being frozen in time, he still excists as part of time.

Wasn't he hurt physically by Raziel?

Are these two statements true? "Kain posses Super Strength due to being a Vampire, now Lord of Vampires. Kain's Strength Exceeds beyond a 100 ton range, near Limitless. "

"Kain gained the Power of Hellfire and darkness Manipulation when He drank the Blood of Shawn The Devil , as kain was dying due to temporaily losing Powers, Thanks to a Spell casted upon him by The Elder, When Kain was greatly weakness. The blood of Shawn, not only saved his life but gave him Unlimited Power of Hellfire and Darkness. "

I was referring to Pyron

Who said that? theres no feats that would put him at the 100+ ton range tbh, he is around 40 tons lifting/pushing, hes not got 100+ ton range at all.

That second one sounds like a fan fiction, ive not heard anything of that and Kain in canon has not had anything to do wuth hellfire or darkness....

Got it from Comic-vine.

Originally posted by Burning thought
Physically he cannot be hurt, his soul is fair game, and he is also open to conceptual attack such as being frozen in time, he still excists as part of time.
How do you know that Pyron has a soul or is not a Soul infused wit energy?

Kain lacks the level of time control to effect Pyron.

Because he is in a universe of beings with souls, furthermore he used to be a typical sentient being ,you would have to prove he loses his soul. And so what if he is a soul infused with energy? it would likely make him even easier meat.

the level of time control? Kain would only need the most basic of time control.....Pyron has zero resistance against time control

If Pyron is cosmic energy, how can he have a soul? 🤨

Because he is a sentient being, and he was not always a cosmic being, furthermore can you explain how being cosmic has any baring on who does or does not have a soul?

He can have a soul, but Elder God can't? 😐

The Elder God has a good reason for not having one, first the Elder eats souls, second the Elder God has shown to be able to survive many Soul reaver hits without having any kind of soul leeched from him and furthermore, the Elder God, technically by LOK universe rules is a massive soul himself while also being physical at the same time, thus why saying he "has" one is redundant.

Originally posted by Burning thought
Because he is in a universe of beings with souls, furthermore he used to be a typical sentient being ,you would have to prove he loses his soul. And so what if he is a soul infused with energy? it would likely make him even easier meat.

the level of time control? Kain would only need the most basic of time control.....Pyron has zero resistance against time control

None of the reasons you gave on why Pyron would have a soul are any good to anyone but yourself. Your gonna have to come better than that. You do realize that Demitri and the gang have the power to attack souls? So if he was a soul infused wit energy, it wouldn't make him "even easier meat".

Seein' as how at any moment Pyron can teleport and move at light speeds, even if Kain slows down time, Pyron would still be too fast. And I'm gonna need proof that his time powers are good enough to affect anyone who isn't fodder.

Originally posted by I am who I am
None of the reasons you gave on why Pyron would have a soul are any good to anyone but yourself. Your gonna have to come better than that. You do realize that Demitri and the gang have the power to attack souls? So if he was a soul infused wit energy, it wouldn't make him "even easier meat".

Seein' as how at any moment Pyron can teleport and move at light speeds, even if Kain slows down time, Pyron would still be too fast. And I'm gonna need proof that his time powers are good enough to affect anyone who isn't fodder.

What reasons in your opinion would give him a soul? just because he is not flesh and blood? nonsense.....he was a sentient being, thus he has a soul by what a soul is, a soul is merely the word used for the spiritual essence of a being, youd have to have good proof to prove he has no spirit, essence etc, especially since he is sentient.

Thats not how it works, sorry but Pyron simply has zero resistance against time and soul attacks, I am going to need proof that he can resist time powers please?

LMAO, that is some of the lamest reasonin' I've ever heard. It's so far reaching that I really can't put up wit this anymore.

I'm no longer gonna engage wit you about why Kain would lose to anybody. This is pointless, Kain wins all the time let you tell it and there is no changin' that.

Originally posted by I am who I am
LMAO, that is some of the lamest reasonin' I've ever heard. It's so far reaching that I really can't put up wit this anymore.

I'm no longer gonna engage wit you about why Kain would lose to anybody. This is pointless, Kain wins all the time let you tell it and there is no changin' that.

So you concede? good....

crawl away child into your own delusions...

Originally posted by Burning thought
So you concede? good....

crawl away child into your own delusions...

Whatever floats your boat, kiddo.