The Gorgon vs. PC Karate Kid

Started by cloud1024 pages
Originally posted by KingD19
Reading movements, and reading your enemies thoughts before they move are two different things. Gorgon could move to the left, but kick to the right, and he has sufficient martial arts abilities to land hits on Val. Gorgon on the other hand, knows what Val will do before he does it, which means there's really nothing he can do.

Speed isn't an issue here, seeing as Val has DODGED beings who move close or above the speed of light.

Gorgons good but not that good.

Why did you quote that then respond to something in another post? That one had nothing to do with speed.

Originally posted by tjcoady

Gorgon, on the other hand, is CONSISTENT. Every time he's done something, it's been more or less around what we'd expect for him: basically taking out the Secret Warriors (which include the high-meta Daisy, the speedster Yo-Yo, the Sorcerer Supreme contender Druid, the descendant of what's-his-name Ghost Rider {Ketch?} and the freaking son of Ares who he just showed off to). And he's fought and beaten Daredevil, Elektra, and Wolverine, and even Fury is afraid of him.

SPOLIERS dammit! Hey when the hell did you get that issue its not supposed to be out yet.

Originally posted by KingD19
Why did you quote that then respond to something in another post? That one had nothing to do with speed.

I'm just pointing out that Gorgon probably wouldn't land a hit. Val would simply dodge it or counter by reading his movements.

Ahhhh, well if you use that logic, they'll be dodging each other all day.

Originally posted by KingD19
Ahhhh, well if you use that logic, they'll be dodging each other all day.

Fortunately Val has mastered not just earth martial arts but every single known martial art in the universe. He's seen it all. Gorgon isn't anything new.

True, but like I said, Gorgon can read his mind, and not anticipate his moves, know his moves, every move he will make before his body makes it. With that ability, Gorgon can attack during Val's attack, stopping his, while landing his own hit. It doesn't matter that all he knows is Earth martial arts, his intellect, plus his powers and skills make him someone who Val will be hard pressed to beat.

Even if he could read his mind PC Val would be too fast wouldnt he.

Originally posted by KingD19
True, but like I said, Gorgon can read his mind, and not anticipate his moves, know his moves, every move he will make before his body makes it. With that ability, Gorgon can attack during Val's attack, stopping his, while landing his own hit. It doesn't matter that all he knows is Earth martial arts, his intellect, plus his powers and skills make him someone who Val will be hard pressed to beat.

He may be able to see it coming, but that won't matter one bit. He won't be able to STOP it. Val can detect weak points in practically anything. Including Interon, which is DC's ADIMANTIUM. He also shattered the Eye of Ekron with one blow. He'd beat the shit out of Gorgon.

Gorgon's best bet is his stone stare.

Originally posted by KingD19
True, but like I said, Gorgon can read his mind, and not anticipate his moves, know his moves, every move he will make before his body makes it. With that ability, Gorgon can attack during Val's attack, stopping his, while landing his own hit. It doesn't matter that all he knows is Earth martial arts, his intellect, plus his powers and skills make him someone who Val will be hard pressed to beat.

BTW, the whole Reading of the Mind thing probably won't work, either. Saturn Girl had a hard time getting inside his head when he knew she was there. She stated his hard trained mind made it difficult.

And this is DC's most powerful telepath and most skilled.

Looks like Gorgons ****ed to me.

You guys are seriously downplaying Gorgon. And he will be able to stop it, dodge it, whatever, as smart as he is, he certainly thinks fast enough to come up with a way to counter attack. If I could read your mind, and I saw you were going to try and punch me in the face, I would duck, and then attack. And with his extremely high thought processes, it won't be difficult. Plus his mind reading ability isn't like Saturn Girls/Xaviers, it's weird, it's not, I know what you had for breakfast, it's more like, I know you're going to try and punch me in the face in three seconds. Plus he can see around himself with his telepathy, making a mental picturte(irrelevant, but ehh)

And not everything has a weak point.

Originally posted by KingD19
You guys are seriously downplaying Gorgon. And he will be able to stop it, dodge it, whatever, as smart as he is, he certainly thinks fast enough to come up with a way to counter attack. If I could read your mind, and I saw you were going to try and punch me in the face, I would duck, and then attack. And with his extremely high thought processes, it won't be difficult.

And not everything has a weak point.

No, I'm not. Gorgon is one of my favorite characters, but he stands little chance here.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
SPOLIERS dammit! Hey when the hell did you get that issue its not supposed to be out yet.

Secret Warriors 3 (Marvels best titles after anything written by Fraction, Ellis, or Brubaker) came out today.

And it was ****ING awesome....

Originally posted by tjcoady
Secret Warriors 3 (Marvels best titles after anything written by Fraction, Ellis, or Brubaker) came out today.

And it was ****ING awesome....

Could have done spoilers ya know...

Agents of Atlas > Secret Warriors! Ha!

I don't care.

Anything that was spoiler-y, you should have gotten already.

BTW, I did some research on Inertron and Adamantium, turns out, even though it's the most powerful metal in DC, it still pales in comparison to Adamantium.

Inertron has been destroyed before, while Primary Adamantium never has. If Val can break it, there's a large chance that he will break his hand trying to break through Adamantium.

Originally posted by tjcoady
I don't care.

Anything that was spoiler-y, you should have gotten already.

*middle finger*