The Gorgon vs Wonder Woman

Originally posted by Battlehammer
prove that he was going a lot faster. it works both ways.

......im not. OMG. Your trying toa rgue something I already agreed with. I agree wodner woman faster and wins wtf do you want. all I was saying is that one scan draco used was not evidences enough to say flash wins. do I really need to quote my self here

Nobody was relying on that scan alone. Which is what you're arguing. One instance doesn't prove anything. But nobody was relying on that scan alone. So you're arguing with an aimaginary WW fan. Everybody here has recognized that that instance is only yet another instance of Wonderwoman dealing with speedsters.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
I will go ahead and prove you wrong anyway:Read the scans.

Diana: He's not truly faster than me, he's just moving through time.

Zoom's appearance of speed is not even speed itself but rather manipulation of time. Hence his actual speed and reflexes are no greater than diana's which is why she could predict his movements because he's actually transferring himself through time as opposed to moving in true lightspeed.

Originally posted by Starscream M
pretty much every time they get tagged by someone without superspeed, which isn't exactly a rare occurrence...or are you suggesting they were moving full speed and still got tagged by streets?

Originally posted by Starscream M
instead of assuming, how about showing whether zoom went beyond a certain speed or not...

the fact is, flash has been beaten or tagged by street levelers and low metas throughout his career...are we to assume all of them are super speedsters too?

Originally posted by OneDumbG0

And you're asking me to prove a negative. But even though the burden's on you to prove that Zoom is going at magnitudes slower than his usual cpacity, I will go ahead and prove you wrong anyway:[QUOTE=11211421]Originally posted by fangirl101
[B]Zoom is hitting Wonder Woman at light speeds. Literally knocking and kicking her around the globe.
http://www.picamatic.com/view/1228555_ww2141vszoom0jq/
http://www.picamatic.com/view/1228556_ww2142vszoom4wk/
http://www.picamatic.com/view/1228560_ww2143vszoom0tp/
http://www.picamatic.com/view/1228563_ww2145vszoom3ms/
http://www.picamatic.com/view/1228562_ww2144vszoom4fo/

Originally posted by Battlehammer
still would be pis. Flashes reaction time is so fast detah stroke would litterally be a statue.........not sure what you dont get.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
This is ridiculous. I'm not going to prove a negative. Flash regularly operates at magnitudes faster than speed of sound. He's capable of moving within the space of picoseconds, which are 1000 nanoseconds. Light only travels one foot in a single nanosecond. Christ.

Your flawed logic:

Flash is capable of moving in picoseconds.

Therefore, Flash does move in picoseconds.

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If that were true, then does that mean anyone who tags Flash can react in picoseconds as well?

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
This is ridiculous. I'm not going to prove a negative. Flash regularly operates at magnitudes faster than speed of sound. He's capable of moving within the space of picoseconds, which are 1000 nanoseconds. Light only travels one foot in a single nanosecond. Christ. Your ridiculous inquiry is analagous to asking me to prove that when Superman punches top tier bricks, I have to prove he's punching them with more than Class 10 strength. Unbelievable.

Nobody was relying on that scan alone. Which is what you're arguing. One instance doesn't prove anything. But nobody was relying on that scan alone. So you're arguing with an aimaginary WW fan. Everybody here has recognized that that instance is only yet another instance of Wonderwoman dealing with speedsters.

oh pleases flash does not allways opperate at the speed of light quite often he goes much slower.

I know. It was just a comment I made when draco posted that scan as evidences. I was simply stating to him that, that alone to be fair was not enough. still dont get why you dont get this. I not argueing wonder woman not faster nor would win. all I was doing was playing devil advicate with a single scan. I dont get what your obbession with attempt to belittle me on something I have agree from the start with. I get it you dont like me, but trying to aruge with me over somethign I agreed with is retarded.

Originally posted by Starscream M
Diana: He's not truly faster than me, he's just moving through time.

Zoom's appearance of speed is not even speed itself but rather manipulation of time. Hence his actual speed and reflexes are no greater than diana's which is why she could predict his movements because he's actually transferring himself through time as opposed to moving in true lightspeed.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
It's quite obvious I already shut you up with the below scans. Don't waste my time anymore.
Read the scans.

Originally posted by Starscream M
Your flawed logic:

Flash is capable of moving in picoseconds.

Therefore, Flash does move in picoseconds.

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If that were true, then does that mean anyone who tags Flash can react in picoseconds as well?

Originally posted by Battlehammer
oh pleases flash does not allways opperate at the speed of light quite often he goes much slower.

I know. It was just a comment I made when draco posted that scan as evidences. I was simply stating to him that, that alone to be fair was not enough. still dont get why you dont get this. I not argueing wonder woman not faster nor would win. all I was doing was playing devil advicate with a single scan. I dont get what your obbession with attempt to belittle me on something I have agree from the start with.

Straw-man again. Let me make it clear, you're preaching to nobody. Not a single person suggested that that single scan proves she can deal with speedsters. Therefore, your remarks are unnecessary and continue to ignore that people use that one scan + the many more that exist which prove Wonderwoman's ability to deal with speedsters.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Therefore, the burden is on you to prove that he is operating at the speed of sound or lower.

Originally posted by Starscream M
so a scan of flash being tagged by a street would shut you up?

Stop asserting that the speedsters are only operating at the speed of sound. You keep making these ridiculous unsupported speculative assertions because you want to project some inability to deal with high speeds onto Wonderwoman. Even in spite the vast proof offered already. That's trolling. Nuff said.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Straw-man. I never argued that Flash regularly operates at picosecond speeds. I said he regularly operates at magnitudes above speed of sound. Show me a single scan where he operates at or below the speed of sound.Again, more straw-man argumentation. I'm not arguing he regularly operates at light speeds. I'm arguing that he regularly operates at magnitudes past the speed of sound. Therefore, the burden is on you to prove that he is operating at the speed of sound or lower.

Straw-man again. Let me make it clear, you're preaching to nobody. Not a single person suggested that that single scan proves she can deal with speedsters. Therefore, your remarks are unnecessary and continue to ignore that people use that one scan + the many more that exist which prove Wonderwoman's ability to deal with speedsters.

well he was going over the speed of sound since she coudlent rely on her hearing however sinces she was able to still rely on the vibration it likly he couldent have been going much over that since at some point he be moving far to fast for vibrations to help her.

I am not straw-maning wtf dont you get. She post a scan as evidences. I played devil advicate and said that a lone was not enough. I never said that was what he based his entire arguement on. I ack-nowledge that he based it off other feats. I simply said that one scan did not prove the point. again why are you argueing with me on something I agree with, this is retarded. I get it you dislike me, but this is jsut annoying

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Therefore, your remarks are unnecessary and continue to ignore that people use that one scan + the many more that exist which prove Wonderwoman's ability to deal with speedsters.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0

[b]Stop asserting that the speedsters are only operating at the speed of sound. [/B]

Wonder Woman hitting Zom was such PIS to me. Over his intitial showing I found that he wasn't nearly as formidable.

At the level his perception operates at, she should be, literally be a statue to him unless he suddenly loses some of his power (Well he did lend some of his powers to Cheetah.).

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Wonder Woman hitting Zom was such PIS to me. Over his intitial showing I found that he wasn't nearly as formidable.

At the level his perception operates at, she should be, literally be a statue to him unless he suddenly loses some of his power (Well he did lend some of his powers to Cheetah.).

Originally posted by Starscream M
so a scan of flash being tagged by a street would shut you up?

any scan of a healthy flash being hit by a street leveller is PIS, and is not usable in debates.

Originally posted by Raoul
any scan of a healthy flash being hit by a street leveller is PIS, and is not usable in debates.

imo, Flash being hit by anyone short of superman's speed is PIS.

Originally posted by Starscream M
wow we actually agree for once!

Lol.

I honestly find it ridiculous. For her to get him like that, she would have to catch him by surprise which is pure PIS.

To him, no one short than Wally West, is literally a frozen statue. He moved so fast, that no one besides Wally West, could even see him moving.

That was utter PIS. After his initial appearance, in my opinion he is not nearly as formidable. Everything from that Wonder Woman incident, to the Bart Allen incident, indicates this in my opinion.

Originally posted by Starscream M
why is a scan of flash being hit by WW not PIS by the same vein...considering Flash is magnitudes faster than Wonder Woman?

I personally find it complete PIS.

Going by Wally West power set, him being hit ever, or being surprised is PIS (Barring someone like Zoom in his initial appearance.). His simple perception of the world should proves so.

There is still a huge difference between Wonder Woman and a street level opponent. That's rather obvious