Sub-Zero vs Ryu

Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
True, can you point out when his regular Hadouken hit anything though?

And btw, you need to stop trying to nitpick Gouki's feats just because there is not much collateral damage in his fights, Superman Prime is a planet mover at FTL speeds, he does not destroy cities in fights, should we disreguard the previous feat?

The Psycho Drive exploded in every other ending did it not? And we never see the PD explode in the nuke one.

hadouken no nazo stated that Gou hadouken is feels like Ryu's. but with greater power.

we are not talking about Superman Prime here. And Lifting strength is different than punching strength. even a boxer who can lift 50 kilos can punch harder than a bodybuilder who can lift 100 kilos.

from charlie's ending :

from guile's ending :

even Charlie's ending shows better scene where psycho drives exploded. but we all know Guile's ending is canon. and why don't you explain how could a single bomb destroys a psycho drive while ten cannot destroy it since ten bombs has much more devastating effects?

Originally posted by I am who I am
You can say that but where is the proof?

I bet I can name more threads where I say Capcom guys lose then you can name SNK guys who lose.

We use facts, y'all just use A>B>C logic and who ever you like more. It is impossible to make a coherent argument about why Orochi could beat Akuma or Ganon for that matter. He hasn't done anything. basically all y'all sayin' is, "Orochi wins cuz he's Orochi. That's not cool.

at least I'm not saying Kyo beat Pyron in one on one match. or Rock Howard beat M.Bison.

now, answer my question. Goenitz has feat, Orochi has no feat. which one is stronger?

To partially answer your question, Charlie dropped those bombs on the bases exterior. While the scenario in Guile's ending had them plant C4 directly on the Psycho Drive.

but the result is still the same. a giant explosion and the base destroyed.

Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma

at least I'm not saying Kyo beat Pyron in one on one match. or Rock Howard beat M.Bison.

now, answer my question. Goenitz has feat, Orochi has no feat. which one is stronger?

I think Goenitz is stronger when put in VS threads against characters who aint from SNK. He has proven his power. I even said he would beat Ryu in a thread. And even went on to say he's the best KOF boss in terms of power.

Originally posted by I am who I am
But you have prolly only admitted to an SNK character losin' or drwain' wit some one like 3 times. Out of dozens of fights.

I think Goenitz is stronger when put in VS threads against characters who aint from SNK. He has proven his power. I even said he would beat Ryu in a thread. And even went on to say he's the best KOF boss in terms of power.

if I'm SNK fanboy then I'll say EVERY SNK character would pawn all capcom's badly.

I see... but I didn't ask about Goenitz is stronger than any character who ain't from SNK. just a simple choice : Goenitz or Orochi?

Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma
if I'm SNK fanboy then I'll say [b]EVERY SNK character would pawn all capcom's badly.

I see... but I didn't ask about Goenitz is stronger than any character who ain't from SNK. just a simple choice : Goenitz or Orochi? [/B]

You do.

Goenitz...there is no proof that Orochi is stronger. He may have gave Goenitz his wind powers but who is to say that when Orochi gave Goenitz his power, Goenitz could barely summon a light breeze and Goenitz had to train himself to make his powers stronger? It doesn't even state anywhere that Orochi is stronger than his own heralds.

Riot Iori choked out Orochi, but then get's destroyed EASILY by Ash Crimson and seein' as how NONE of these characters have any super
feats, there is no reason to put Ash below Orochi. Orochi is pretty much just another KOF boss.

Originally posted by I am who I am
You do.

Goenitz...there is no proof that Orochi is stronger. He may have gave Goenitz his wind powers but who is to say that when Orochi gave Goenitz his power, Goenitz could barely summon a light breeze and Goenitz had to train himself to make his powers stronger? It doesn't even state anywhere that Orochi is stronger than his own heralds.

Riot Iori choked out Orochi, but then get's destroyed EASILY by Ash Crimson and seein' as how NONE of these characters have any super
feats, there is no reason to put Ash below Orochi. Orochi is pretty much just another KOF boss.

You do.

Goenitz...there is no proof that Orochi is stronger. It doesn't even state anywhere that Orochi is stronger than his own heralds.

oh wait...i know why you're saying this: Bison had his own clones make him run away like a little biatch that he is 😆

He may have gave Goenitz his wind powers but who is to say that when Orochi gave Goenitz his power, Goenitz could barely summon a light breeze and Goenitz had to train himself to make his powers stronger?

Riot Iori choked out Orochi

but then get's destroyed EASILY by Ash Crimson

and seein' as how NONE of these characters have any super feats

~Sado

Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma

Thats awesome.

Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma

😂 😂 😂

Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma
hadouken no nazo stated that Gou hadouken is feels like Ryu's. but with greater power.

we are not talking about Superman Prime here. And Lifting strength is different than punching strength. even a boxer who can lift 50 kilos can punch harder than a bodybuilder who can lift 100 kilos.

from charlie's ending :

from guile's ending :

even Charlie's ending shows better scene where psycho drives exploded. but we all know Guile's ending is canon. and why don't you explain how could a single bomb destroys a psycho drive while ten cannot destroy it since ten bombs has much more devastating effects?

at least I'm not saying Kyo beat Pyron in one on one match. or Rock Howard beat M.Bison.

now, answer my question. Goenitz has feat, Orochi has no feat. which one is stronger?

2. It is a viable example, but for a better one, he has flown through a planet and destroyed one, and when fighting Monarch did not destroy shit. Point being that lack of collateral damage does not take away previous feats like you seem to believe.

3. One had the bombs planted on the Drive, the other had bombs dropped on the base, big difference.

Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma

Originally posted by Sado22
yes because in your case, you just happen to be always on the SF side 😂

proof is not required because it's an illogical, brainf0ck to even suggest that Orochi is not stronger than his lackeys. prophets represent the power of god, does that mean they are stronger than him? wtf are you talking about?
Orochi threatened life on earth, could have potentially destroyed it. Goentiz could only phuck up a city. do the damn math.

oh wait...i know why you're saying this: Bison had his own clones make him run away like a little biatch that he is 😆

yes, and then he trained so much that he surpasses his own god. please mate, you're reaching now. this aint ryu we're talking about. not everyone can become the cosmic buddha by dojodorking 😬

using flames of his family heritage built ESPECIALLY to take out Orochi. it wasn't his orochi power but his yasakani heritage that allowed him to do that. do suggest otherwise is monstrous stupidity.

using Kagura's mirror powers especially designed to suck out orochi power. that and the fact that Orochi Iori is far from a smart fighter.

goentiz pwned a city with [b]a glimpse of his power>>>anything you can name from SF.

~Sado [/B]

Originally posted by Sado22
[B]proof is not required because it's an illogical, brainf0ck to even suggest that Orochi is not stronger than his lackeys. prophets represent the power of god, does that mean they are stronger than him? wtf are you talking about?
Orochi threatened life on earth, could have potentially destroyed it. Goentiz could only phuck up a city. do the damn math.

/B]

Orochi aint no damn god hand his prophets aint real prophets. His prophets gave the main characters a harder time and they have more feats. Until Orochi actually does somthin', he is weaker.

If this is the older one, Ryu.

If this is the younger one, Sub-Zero.

Huh, arguing about Bison and Orochi in a Sub Zero VS Ryu discussion? Doesn't get much dumber than this.

Originally posted by I am who I am
I just gotta say...

Orochi aint no damn god hand his prophets aint real prophets. His prophets gave the main characters a harder time and they have more feats. Until Orochi actually does somthin', he is weaker.

Goenitz is part of his 4 heavenly kings. He has some of Orochi power inside him. and it obviously not as much as Orochi's. Orochi is the source of their power. No angels are stronger than their God. use or logic or something. even Goenitz worships Orochi as his God. it doesn't make sense he worship someone who is obviously weaker than him. that's why I said you guys always worship feat more than anything else. just like saying mutenroshi is stronger than SSJ4 Goku because SSJ4 Goku never destroyed a planet or a moon.

Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
1. And? That means...What?

2. It is a viable example, but for a better one, he has flown through a planet and destroyed one, and when fighting Monarch did not destroy shit. Point being that lack of collateral damage does not take away previous feats like you seem to believe.

3. One had the bombs planted on the Drive, the other had bombs dropped on the base, big difference.

1. it has the same effects : well landed kick. with a greater power.

2. accepted.

3. charlie's ending shows psycho drive exploded too. even the final effects are the same : big explosion, the base was destroyed. even though it was dropped on the base it still influence inside the base.

Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma
Goenitz is part of his 4 heavenly kings. He has some of Orochi power inside him. and it obviously not as much as Orochi's. Orochi is the source of their power. No angels are stronger than their God. use or logic or something. even Goenitz worships Orochi as his God. it doesn't make sense he worship someone who is obviously weaker than him. that's why I said you guys always worship feat more than anything else. just like saying mutenroshi is stronger than SSJ4 Goku because SSJ4 Goku never destroyed a planet or a moon.

OROCHI IS NOT A GOD. I know Orochi is better than Goenitz but it is IMPOSSIBLE to succeed in makin' a good argument to prove it in a FAIR VS thread cuz Goenitz has done more and done better. AND it has never been said that Orochi is stronger than ANYONE. Y'all worship who the hell you like more and who the hell they beat. That's worse than usin' feats by a long shot. And that DBZ analogy was stupid cuz Goku beat Master Roshi already. So we already know he's stronger. And Goku has more feats in his regular form than Master Roshi has in the entire anime.

Originally posted by Frisky Dingo
Huh, arguing about Bison and Orochi in a Sub Zero VS Ryu discussion? Doesn't get much dumber than this.

Originally posted by I am who I am
I'm not gonna continue this stupid ass ordeal beyond this last point. Orochi has nothin' to do wit this thread and you and your buddy got my words TOTALLY phucked up as usual. This is why I usually ignore you.

OROCHI IS NOT A GOD. I know Orochi is better than Goenitz but it is IMPOSSIBLE to succeed in makin' a good argument to prove it in a FAIR VS thread cuz Goenitz has done more and done better. AND it has never been said that Orochi is stronger than ANYONE. Y'all worship who the hell you like more and who the hell they beat. That's worse than usin' feats by a long shot. And that DBZ analogy was stupid cuz Goku beat Master Roshi already. So we already know he's stronger. And Goku has more feats in his regular form than Master Roshi has in the entire anime. This is dumb, but it gets worse. You aint seen nothin' yet. Check back in a day.

read again what I said. Goenitz only has some of Orochi's power while Orochi had 100% of his own power. if Goenitz has only some then he is stronger than the source of the power? please...

about that DBZ analogy, finally you can think better.

P.S : I won't reply this thread again if it's about Goenitz and Orochi. if you want to settle this, just made Orochi vs Goenitz thread.

Orochi aint no damn god hand his prophets aint real prophets. His prophets gave the main characters a harder time and they have more feats. Until Orochi actually does somthin', he is weaker.

what does that tell you? and Orochi could have destroyed the world hadn't it been for Kyo and Iori. what Goenitz did is nothing compared to what Orochi can do. not to mention that orochi can read minds, teleport, absorb energy, has telekenesis, can tear out your soul from your body, has an extremely rapid healing factor can bend time, is immortal and a god and the only reason he was defeated was because of the magical trinity that is sacred in its own right.

no need to reach like you are mane. your point was moot before it even got out of your mouth. that's the sad truth.