Nature is God

Can it be that be true? That Nature is God?

I was thinking about this. And as we know Nature: "the element" is responsible for everything that's ever happened or has ever been created, ever. From the particles inside sub-atoms in the smallest grain of beach sand there is, to outer-space and beyond our galaxy and even the whole universe, and past that too, including time. All of everything that ever was, is, and will be was created, in essence by a natural force: Nature.

And to further explain, people will say God created Nature, that Mother Nature or "Gaia" is Nature but I think I believe that this Nature thing is what we humans refer to as God. Here's why I think so..

I believe people may call it God to put a name on it just to have some kind of controlled understanding of it cause of course not "knowing" breeds either madness or fear in a human's nature naturally, and we can't live like that.

Nature is the creator. And God is our name we gave it.

If you kinda look at it. You can replace the word God in the Bible with the word Nature for every time He's mentioned and it would perfectly be relevant and sensible to the whole story still..

That's my take.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
If you kinda look at it. You can replace the word God in the Bible with the word Nature for every time He's mentioned and it would perfectly be relevant and sensible to the whole story still..

For Nature so loved the world, Nature gave his only begotten son.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
For Nature so loved the world, Nature gave his only begotten son.

Yes. But instead of "His" say "it." And that's even if Jesus was conceived that way. From what we know now, it is impossible to naturally create a human being with one human without another humans cells.

The only reason it might not make sense is because it's saying that Nature, which it can't, can have a single special human being above all that's meant to come from the clouds one unknown day and save us all from unproven evil doom if we listen to what he's said and follow his rules as best and as sincerely as we can according to some writer in the middle-east with a toga and sandals probably pissed as fcuk at epic-brutal Roman oppression.

There wasn't an only begotten Son cause it's not natural or even logical or scientifically possible to have a person that way.

If Jesus existed, he was a (natural) human being with flesh, bones, and blood: Fact. And Nature is God. That's why "His" name (that we gave it) could be sensibly replaced.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
There wasn't an only begotten Son cause it's not natural or even logical or scientifically possible to have a person that way.

If Jesus existed, he was a (natural) human being with flesh, bones, and blood: Fact. And Nature is God. That's why "His" name (that we gave it) could be sensibly replaced.

I have the distinct impression you don't know what "only begotten means".

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I have the distinct impression you don't know what "only begotten means".

Then your instincts have failed you profoundly. Surely I know what "Only begotten Son" means. It still doesn't make it physically possible be conceived in that way, no matter what you feel.

What, just cause someone long ago wrote so? C'mon man..

Nature is God. They are one in the same save the fables human imagination untruthfully but understandably adds to it either verbally via preaching and/or in writing via the bible. All just to make the scheme seem more purposeful and important to us.

Nature is behind it all. Everything. All of it.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Then your instincts have failed you profoundly. Surely I know what "Only begotten Son" means. It still doesn't make it physically possible be conceived in that way, no matter what you feel.

Please, tell me what "only begotten son" means and explain why it is impossible.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Nature is God. They are one in the same save the fables human imagination untruthfully but understandably adds to it either verbally via preaching and/or in writing via the bible. All just to make the scheme seem more purposeful and important to us.

Nature is behind it all. Everything. All of it.

That's certainly a way of looking at it.

natures not God. God's doesn't exist....nature does.

zing!

More like the universe is alive.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Can it be that be true? That Nature is God?

Originally posted by Mindship
"Pantheism" equates nature with God. But this only accounts for God's immanence, not God's transcendence.

Does Shinto cover both? Everything contains a spirit.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Please, tell me what "only begotten son" means and explain why it is impossible.

When someone is "Begotten" it means that they were procreated, the thing is, is that it is impossible to be born the way Jesus was said and written to be born because it just phisically is. No human can be ccreated outta basically "thin air". But the Bible doesn't seen to mean that. They mean it literally.

It practically reads that some non-evidentiary spook in the sky magically put a "special" fetus in another humans stomach. lol!?

Man please. Mary got spermed. Either that or the story was completely made up for the reasons I've already listed up above. (on my other post)

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Does Shinto cover both? Everything contains a spirit.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North

Begotten means born/procreated, as you said. The phrase "only begotten son" describes nothing impossible, though immaculate conception is impossible as far as we know. Many people are the "only begotten son" of their families.

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
natures not God. God's doesn't exist....nature does.

zing!

God the word (or being) is made up by the human imagination to be used as a symbol to represent Nature.

Which is really odd considering that "nature" is the word we made up to describe nature.

Originally posted by Mindship
"Pantheism" equates nature with God. But this only accounts for God's immanence, not God's transcendence.

I've never even heard of the word "Pantheism". It's meaning sounds interesting to me though, and i'll read further on it. But one thing. I'm not really equating Nature and God, if that's how i came across, my bad. I mean that Nature is Nature and God is the human given name given to Nature to make it all more "inspiring"..if you may.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Begotten means born/procreated, as you said. The phrase "only begotten son" describes nothing impossible, though immaculate conception is impossible as far as we know. Many people are the "only begotten son" of their families.

But the Bible means "immaculate conception" when it refers to God's only "Begotten" Son.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Which is really odd considering that "nature" is the word we made up to describe nature.

Well, imagination and/or the human mind can be odd sometimes.

And ever heard of synonyms?

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Well, imagination and/or the human mind can be odd sometimes.

And ever heard of synonyms?

I have indeed. But most synonyms emerge from the combination of languages within a single culture or words with distinct (if subtle) differences that are slowly lost.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I have indeed. But most synonyms emerge from the combination of languages within a single culture or words with distinct (if subtle) differences that are slowly lost.

Which is what the meaning and the words Nature and "God" are, in essence, in the human mind, at least. But Nature is the true part of it, that's what i'm trying to explain.