****. This is tough.
If EJ destroys reality in one dimension or something, then teleports him there, he wins. But, that 'weakness' of MJJ's isn't common knowledge and wouldn't be known by EJ. I don't even know why he'd think about using it.
I'm gonna go MJJ because I like him more, and uh...*shrug* That's basically it.
Flip a coin.
Originally posted by D_Dude1210
Dammit Eny, I don't think ppl will fall for that again. 😛 It's just too soon.
No look, I can prove it:
Superman vs. Galactus. Who wins? Galactus is the sensible answer, right? Now lets go by feats and see where that line of reasoning takes us:
Superman has traveled 25 lightyears in the time it takes to say about four sentences. That means he's millions of times faster than light. Superman has vibrated intangible in combat against Doomsday, and has also vibrated to match specific universal frequencies to stop dimensions from collapsing. That means he can't be hit. Superman's lifted a book with infinite mass with help from Captain Marvel. But half of infinity is still infinity. Plus, Ultraman who is roughly equal to Superman and whom Superman has beaten in the space lifted it by himself. That means Superman has infinite strength. Superman is durable enough to fly through black holes and double-black holes like they're made of bubble gum. That means he's more durable than...um, stars?
"But Eny what about Supes' weaknesses lulz!?" Okay. Superman has been struck with a blast of red solar radiation right in the chest by a nebula-sized monster (Sun Eater) and was still powerful enough to toss an entropy bomb at it and escape the explosion at FTL speeds. "Ur forgetting about K-nite, Eny!?" Okay. Superman's had his blood transmuted into Kryptonite by Cosmic King. Superman fought through it and one-shot him.
Superman's also resisted top tier matter manipulation, reality manipulation, and psychic manipulation - sometimes at the universal-scale level.
Let's review, shall we: Superman is millions of times FTL with infinite strength and his weaknesses don't mean a damn thing. He can't lose to Galactus.
dur But he does. 😬 Damn. Feats suck.
Originally posted by EnyalusIf EJ destroys reality in one dimension or something,
then teleports him there, he wins.
Destroying reality around 616 Jaspers was impossible in the Jaspers arc,
and only the Fury was able to resist Jaspers' power long enough to prevail.
(let's not forget, the Fury was Moore's plot device to defeat Jaspers)
I mean, cats seem to forget just how powerful Matrix/Merlyn was,
and Merlyn wasn't even able to touch 238 Jaspers' power,
and 616 Jaspers was on panel and in the bios FAR more powerful than 238 JJ,
so go figure.
Based on feats/potential,
MJJ > EJ all day imo.
Originally posted by Enyalus
No look, I can prove it:Superman vs. Galactus. Who wins? Galactus is the sensible answer, right? Now lets go by feats and see where that line of reasoning takes us:
Superman has traveled 25 lightyears in the time it takes to say about four sentences. That means he's millions of times faster than light. Superman has vibrated intangible in combat against Doomsday, and has also vibrated to match specific universal frequencies to stop dimensions from collapsing. That means he can't be hit. Superman's lifted a book with infinite mass with help from Captain Marvel. But half of infinity is still infinity. Plus, Ultraman who is roughly equal to Superman and whom Superman has beaten in the space lifted it by himself. That means Superman has infinite strength. Superman is durable enough to fly through black holes and double-black holes like they're made of bubble gum. That means he's more durable than...um, stars?
"But Eny what about Supes' weaknesses lulz!?" Okay. Superman has been struck with a blast of red solar radiation right in the chest by a nebula-sized monster (Sun Eater) and was still powerful enough to toss an entropy bomb at it and escape the explosion at FTL speeds. "Ur forgetting about K-nite, Eny!?" Okay. Superman's had his blood transmuted into Kryptonite by Cosmic King. Superman fought through it and one-shot him.
Superman's also resisted top tier matter manipulation, reality manipulation, and psychic manipulation - sometimes at the universal-scale level.
Let's review, shall we: Superman is millions of times FTL with infinite strength and his weaknesses don't mean a damn thing. He can't lose to Galactus.
dur But he does. 😬 Damn. Feats suck.
probably one of the best post I've ever read...😉
Has there ever been a case in which EJ's powers didn't work? From what we know his powers work no matter what right? Nothing was able to stop them, besides a plot device. MJJ has to have reality to warp. He got beat b/c the fury was made to be able to beat mutants by himself. The fact is though that if there is no reality to warp MJJ has no power. EJ has mxy's powers. Myx's powers work without there being reality, so i'd assume EJ's would too. Of course they're both crazy so i dont think they would ever figure out how to actually kill each other. Stalemate imo.
Emperor Joker. Because the only way to take him down is something MJJ can't do. He can't exploit a psychological weakness, because there's no Batman.
His powers are not reality warping. 5D imp powers cannot be stopped by 3 dimensional reality warping. Especially given that Joker starts out with a larger scope and scale of power. MJJ eventually would have become a multiversal threat. He did not achieve this level in the comic.
Thus, Joker, who had the greater feats wins.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Emperor Joker. Because the only way to take him down is something MJJ can't do. He can't exploit a psychological weakness, because there's no Batman.His powers are not reality warping. 5D imp powers cannot be stopped by 3 dimensional reality warping. Especially given that Joker starts out with a larger scope and scale of power. MJJ [b]eventually
would have become a multiversal threat. He did not achieve this level in the comic.Thus, Joker, who had the greater feats wins. [/B]
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