Originally posted by SurturNot really, they aren't bound by a creed or manifesto. Anyone can be antifa if they so choose and want to make their own black banners. They're not even really a group. Even the ones who get all the press probably have incredibly different political beliefs, whether they be anarchists, ancaps, socialists, communists, etc. Nazis are bound by a doctrine, antifa is just an umbrella term for those going against the Nazis.
Lol because by now it is clear what they represent. They are communists. They are not patriots. DHS essentially has labeled them terrorists.Ignorance is no longer an excuse with them.
Originally posted by Surtur
because by now it is clear what they represent. They are communists. They are not patriots. DHS essentially has labeled them terrorists.Ignorance is no longer an excuse with them.
they are a small group of anarchists which are used by couch-nazi phags,
in order to scapegoat and distract from nazism which they secretly support.
i'm talking about you
Originally posted by Morning_Glory
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Also here is the thing, most do not say you can't be offended. You have every right to be offended. You just don't have the right to try to shut someone down because they hurt your feelings.
This is why I am fine with Trump calling out the NFL players, but not fine for him actually saying they should be fired.
My thing with nazis is ignore the little f*cks. They practice identity politics just like some on the left, so they want attention and they also crave victimhood just as much as some on the left.
Originally posted by Scribble
Not really, they aren't bound by a creed or manifesto. Anyone can be antifa if they so choose and want to make their own black banners. They're not even really a group. Even the ones who get all the press probably have incredibly different political beliefs, whether they be anarchists, ancaps, socialists, communists, etc. Nazis are bound by a doctrine, antifa is just an umbrella term for those going against the Nazis.
No, Antifa is a term used for those committing violence against people in the name of fighting fascism. When they are the fascists. You do not need to call yourself a member of Antifa to fight actual fascism. So doing so now is essentially saying you are okay with the tactics some use.
Sorry, they just don't get a pass. Not to mention the term "nazi" is thrown out towards anyone and everyone. You can see it here, I am being called a nazi lol. You have to admit that is sad.
Our intelligence agencies have been warning about attacks from Antifa for over a year.
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
convenient that you think we should ignore nazis, yet obsessively go after antifa and blm. you are a legit phaggot.
I never said ignore the nazis if they go and commit violence for no reason. But what tends to happen is other dipshits show up intent on committing violence and using the excuse of wanting to fight nazis.
If they had been ignored, what would have happened? Would the 4th reich be here?
Originally posted by SurturTbh though between Antifa and literal Nazis I'd still take Antifa since they just hate Nazis. Nazis hate blacks, Jews, gays, the Chinese/Koreans, trans people, mixed-race people, trade unionists, anyone with a differing political opinion to them, and they will happily commit violence to any of those people, too. Nazis once took over half of Europe. Antifa are a bunch of kids with black hoods. You gotta identify which of these are the real threat.
No, Antifa is a term used for those committing violence against people in the name of fighting fascism. When they are the fascists. You do not need to call yourself a member of Antifa to fight actual fascism. So doing so now is essentially saying you are okay with the tactics some use.Sorry, they just don't get a pass. Not to mention the term "nazi" is thrown out towards anyone and everyone. You can see it here, I am being called a nazi lol. You have to admit that is sad.
Our intelligence agencies have been warning about attacks from Antifa for over a year.
But again, I'm not pro nazi at all lol. Anyone who thinks that is insane. Shit like that is exactly why Antifa needs to be called out. There is a problem in the country when you're labeled a nazi merely for acknowledging that nazis are not the only violent people involved in these things.
I'm not going to stop and I hope others in this country do not either, no matter how many dipshits scream "nazi".
Originally posted by Scribble
Tbh though between Antifa and literal Nazis I'd still take Antifa since they just hate Nazis. Nazis hate blacks, Jews, gays, the Chinese/Koreans, trans people, mixed-race people, trade unionists, anyone with a differing political opinion to them, and they will happily commit violence to any of those people, too. Nazis once took over half of Europe. Antifa are a bunch of kids with black hoods. You gotta identify which of these are the real threat.
Dude, it's not an either or here. Both are pieces of shit, you do not need to choose.
You dismiss them as a bunch of kids with black hoods, but we have had the FBI and Department of Homeland security labeling their acts as terrorism and we have them also having warned state and local officials across the country about increasing attacks from this group for the last year or so.
We are not going to dismiss them as merely a bunch of kids with black hoods. It's just flat out dishonest. You are not from this country so I don't expect you to have known that, but now that you do has your opinion changed?
Originally posted by Scribble
Also, the fact that people ignored the threat of National Socialism in Germany is why the Nazis got so powerfulIf they'd been physically challenged then maybe they wouldn't have grown so strong in the first place
Yeah and in the instances when the people fought back and beat the shit out of the nazis they....used it to play the victim. So that strategy didn't pan out either.
Originally posted by SurturThe problem with not 'choosing' is that it's allowing anti-anti-fascist terminology to enter everyday language. Oh, you're an anti-fascist? You hate fascism? You must be a ****ing commie then!
Dude, it's not an either or here. Both are pieces of shit, you do not need to choose.You dismiss them as a bunch of kids with black hoods, but we have had the FBI and Department of Homeland security labeling their acts as terrorism and we have them also having warned state and local officials across the country about increasing attacks from this group for the last year or so.
We are not going to dismiss them as merely a bunch of kids with black hoods. It's just flat out dishonest. You are not from this country so I don't expect you to have known that, but now that you do has your opinion changed?
The FBI have been blah blah but has anything come of it? No. All the while minorities and even people who aren't minorities get beaten the shit out of by neo-Nazis all the time
Originally posted by Scribble
So we're ****ed either way, then? Cool, I say we go down fighting
Go down fighting the right people. Antifa do not fight the right people. Sometimes it is legit nazis yes. But there are plenty of instances where they don't. In a recent event when they showed up and there wasn't really many actual nazis there they just kinda turned violent against cops and reporters lol.
This is because they just enjoy committing violence and use "dem nazis!" as an excuse to go do it.
Originally posted by Scribble
The problem with not 'choosing' is that it's allowing anti-anti-fascist terminology to enter everyday language. Oh, you're an anti-fascist? You hate fascism? You must be a ****ing commie then!The FBI have been blah blah but has anything come of it? No. All the while minorities and even people who aren't minorities get beaten the shit out of by neo-Nazis all the time
...and murdered in terrorist attacks.
but we can only acknowledge and talk about it when the terrorist is not white.
any talk about the pattern of right-wing terrorist attacks or the murder victims like heather heyer , surt demands that we talk about antifa [flashing backlit l.e.d. billboard] and blm instead. weird.