The General Discussion Thread

Started by Surtur22,321 pages

Originally posted by Scribble
The problem with not 'choosing' is that it's allowing anti-anti-fascist terminology to enter everyday language. Oh, you're an anti-fascist? You hate fascism? You must be a ****ing commie then!

The FBI have been blah blah but has anything come of it? No. All the while minorities and even people who aren't minorities get beaten the shit out of by neo-Nazis all the time

But dude that is the fault of Antifa and overall the left. They destroy the meaning of words. They have destroyed what nazi means. They have destroyed what fascist means. Even words like sexism and racism hold less weight because of the way they are abused.

They have even destroyed what "alt right" means, because alt right was originally a label actually nazis gave to themselves, and now it is something dipshits dish out as a label in order to call someone a nazi without saying the word nazi.

And you ask me if anything has come of the FBI and DHS etc. and the answer is mostly no because *they were ignored*. Police were told to hold back on various occasions. Only recently were the cops allowed to do their jobs and we had less violence. Why did state and local officials originally ignore them? Probably because they had your attitude to be honest. It did not turn out well. It's why attitudes like that need to stop because they just get more people hurt.

Originally posted by Surtur
Go down fighting the right people. Antifa do not fight the right people. Sometimes it is legit nazis yes. But there are plenty of instances where they don't. In a recent event when they showed up and there wasn't really many actual nazis there they just kinda turned violent against cops and reporters lol.

This is because they just enjoy committing violence and use "dem nazis!" as an excuse to go do it.

I still stand my point that the new definition of what 'Antifa' is holds little ground due to the fact that it is not a creed, organisation or even strict ideologically-linked group. They have no leader, no manifesto. Anyone can dress up in black, take the opportunity to be violent for fun, and then label themselves, or be labelled, 'Antifa'. It doesn't mean anything.

you're wasting your time scribble.

See, now you're using "the left" as a general, catch-all term. I thought you were against identity politics? Because political allegiance is certainly a part of a person's identity.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
you're wasting your time scribble.
Yeah I know

I used to do this with Surtur a lot more back at the start of this year

But sometimes I just gotta point out flaws in ideological thinking because it gets on my nerves. Not even Surtur in particular, just the vernacular of a lot of people on the 'right' who claim to hate identity politics but use it whenever they can to smear the opposition.

It's like when people try to smear the left when violence erupts at a protest. Why are the left responsible for everyone around them? Why are other people not held to this same high standard?

Originally posted by Scribble
Yeah I know

I used to do this with Surtur a lot more back at the start of this year

Lol, so I'm the issue here...not the guy who constantly calls me a nazi? Because I call out Antifa? You can say what you want about ideology, but we had the DHS, etc. listing these people as far more than "kids with black hoods". Which is what you dismissed them as.

This attitude is *dangerous*. There is no need to be condescending, especially with another troll.

Nails did

"nails did" hate that so much

Originally posted by Surtur

This attitude is *dangerous*. There is no need to be condescending, especially with another troll.

oh is that why you're a colossal retard? "lulz i are just troll"

Originally posted by Scribble
It's like when people try to smear the left when violence erupts at a protest. Why are the left responsible for everyone around them? Why are other people not held to this same high standard?

Why is it you only seem to take issue with it's done with the left, though? Also, I refer to "the right" as well when I am talking about conservatives usually.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
oh is that why you're a colossal retard? "lulz i are just troll"

Lol no, you are the troll, too stupid to know what an actual nazi is.

Originally posted by Surtur
Lol, so I'm the issue here...not the guy who constantly calls me a nazi? Because I call out Antifa? You can say what you want about ideology, but we had the DHS, etc. listing these people as far more than "kids with black hoods". Which is what you dismissed them as.

This attitude is *dangerous*. There is no need to be condescending, especially with another troll.

Bash clearly takes anything you say and twists it to his own needs, but you don't make it easy for yourself when you get way more up-in-arms about "violence on both sides" and Antifa than the actual rise of hardline right-wing extremism, which is way more prevalent than the rise of hardline left-wing extremism right now. Sure, blame does need to be shared, but when we're talking about literal Nazis being attacked at a literal Nazi rally, why stoop to that level when you wouldn't have done it if it were the other way around?

Originally posted by Surtur
Lol no, you are the troll, too stupid to know what an actual nazi is.

that's nice retard. now go eat a large sack of horse dicks, and wash it down with bleach.

Should I go see Morrissey?

NO!

god no

Originally posted by Scribble
Bash clearly takes anything you say and twists it to his own needs, but you don't make it easy for yourself when you get way more up-in-arms about "violence on both sides" and Antifa than the actual rise of hardline right-wing extremism, which is way more prevalent than the rise of hardline left-wing extremism right now. Sure, blame does need to be shared, but when we're talking about literal Nazis being attacked at a literal Nazi rally, why stoop to that level when you wouldn't have done it if it were the other way around?

Wait now, if Antifa just held a rally and was being peaceful and then nazis showed up to "protest" wearing masks and wielding weapons and violence eruopted I would definitely be calling out both sides if people only complained about Antifa.