Originally posted by Scribblethey are decended from white and native american, tho.
I don't know if anyone here is qualified to answer this question, but it's one that's been on my brain a lot recently: Why are Mexicans, et al. seen as 'POC' suddenly, when they are literally the descendants of the White Man who came over from Spain, pillaged and raped the lands, and killed all the Natives, just like what happened in the USA? Hernan Cortes wasn't no downtrodden minority, he was the King Conquistador.
Originally posted by Surtur
Oh, it is THEIR land? Did they sprout from the ground like dwarfs?Do I need to go slap the shit out of my history teacher who taught us they came over from Asia? Say the word and the slapping will commence.
Before the splitting up of continents there was ONE giant land mass that all of the Earth's population lived on. Your history teacher should have taught you that too. They settled here so it WAS their land.
You should slap yourself for your blatant hypocrisy and psuedo intellectualism.
Originally posted by SurturI mean it was their land as much as any land can be anyone's, just because you have newfangled 'laws' that say that America is America, it's still literally just land, so from your perspective you should be fine with immigrants coming over and killing your people. But you don't seem fine with that, so I don't really understand your perspective on the native Americans.
Oh, it is THEIR land? Did they sprout from the ground like dwarfs?Do I need to go slap the shit out of my history teacher who taught us they came over from Asia? Say the word and the slapping will commence.
Originally posted by Scribble
I don't know if anyone here is qualified to answer this question, but it's one that's been on my brain a lot recently: Why are Mexicans, et al. seen as 'POC' suddenly, when they are literally the descendants of the White Man who came over from Spain, pillaged and raped the lands, and killed all the Natives, just like what happened in the USA? Hernan Cortes wasn't no downtrodden minority, he was the King Conquistador.
It needs to be pointed out natives did a whole lot of rape, enslavement, and stealing of land from each other as well. So I can't stand when people act like they just had some mystical forever ownership over this land and did nothing wrong. If we were here when they came here and they had the tech we did? They'd have wiped us out too.
Though you ever hear of Trayvon Martin? And the guy who shot him? He's hispanic. But our press would label him "white hispanic". And why? Cuz it was easier to whine and cry racism if you toss in the word white.
Originally posted by Scribble
I mean it was their land as much as any land can be anyone's, just because you have newfangled 'laws' that say that America is America, it's still literally just land, so from your perspective you should be fine with immigrants coming over and killing your people. But you don't seem fine with that, so I don't really understand your perspective on the native Americans.
But no, that's just all wrong. We set up a government. We set up borders, etc.
So no, there is no valid perspective for illegals to come here. We didn't come here illegally lol. People might not like that, but it's true.
And most of human history is lost to us. We have no way to say they were the first ones here.
This isn't a youtube comment section, being "first" is irrelevant.
Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Before the splitting up of continents there was ONE giant land mass that all of the Earth's population lived on. Your history teacher should have taught you that too. They settled here so it WAS their land.You should slap yourself for your blatant hypocrisy and psuedo intellectualism.
Uh, they came here from somewhere else lol. It's not up for debate. So no, this ain't their land anymore.
They are free to try to take it back.
Originally posted by SurturThe Aztecs were ruthless in their human sacrifice but I still don't see that as making the Conquistadors' systematic extermination of their people and their culture 'okay' or 'just a part of life'. And particularly in the USA, many of the natives who were wiped out were innocent, peaceful nomad tribes who got caught up in it all and ended up getting the rawest of deals. It's a grim history that shouldn't be easily forgotten, imo.
It needs to be pointed out natives did a whole lot of rape, enslavement, and stealing of land from each other as well. So I can't stand when people act like they just had some mystical forever ownership over this land and did nothing wrong. If we were here when they came here and they had the tech we did? They'd have wiped us out too.Though you ever hear of Trayvon Martin? And the guy who shot him? He's hispanic. But our press would label him "white hispanic". And why? Cuz it was easier to whine and cry racism if you toss in the word white.
Originally posted by Scribble
The Aztecs were ruthless in their human sacrifice but I still don't see that as making the Conquistadors' systematic extermination of their people and their culture 'okay' or 'just a part of life'. And particularly in the USA, many of the natives who were wiped out were innocent, peaceful nomad tribes who got caught up in it all and ended up getting the rawest of deals. It's a grim history that shouldn't be easily forgotten, imo.
It's more just that they have no room to whine or judge lol.
Originally posted by Bashar TegYeah, I didn't think you would have any answers, but thanks for trying anyway and then quickly giving up for some reason
fine scrib, mexicans are really mostly white, even though they typically have dark skin and native american physical traits. you win. next topic plz.
Originally posted by Surtur'Government' and 'Borders' were ideas they didn't even need, they were getting along fine without them until greedy asshats came over and acted like it was okay to sell them smallpox blankets. Just because you stick a flag over the body of a man you just murdered, doesn't change the fact you just legit exterminated someone. It doesn't matter who was there 'first', it just mattered that they were there at all. It was their home.
But no, that's just all wrong. We set up a government. We set up borders, etc.So no, there is no valid perspective for illegals to come here. We didn't come here illegally lol. People might not like that, but it's true.
And most of human history is lost to us. We have no way to say they were the first ones here.
This isn't a youtube comment section, being "first" is irrelevant.