catch nightcrawler

Originally posted by rotiart
First off cyclops routinely reviews the files... He's the headmaster... Nightcrawler isn't... So yeah that's why kurt can't read them.

Second just cause a non canon kurt can do it doesn't take away from his ability to do it, but the canon one WOULDNT do it. Self imposed heroistic restricions...

And his bodily agility may be better but Scott only has to twitch his eyes no his whole body... You can't compare tuning your head to turning an entire body...

And Scott has disarmed an entire room so quickly even wolverine didn't want to mess with Scott...

And scott tacticle skills have been shown to be a direct comparison I captain America...

It was AoA Nightcrawler actually, and he ported Deadpool's head off. And Proudstar's finger.

Originally posted by KingD19
Scott has to use his arms to adjust the visor and let the beam through, in the time it takes him to do that, Kurt could port, get a lick in, then port to a new spot. In an actual fight, his physical capabilities, unpredictability, strength, speed, and reflexes give him the win. In the same pic with Cyke hitting Nightcrawler as he ported, it also showed him expecting to miss Kurt, showing he's fast enough to dodge it.

And now that I think about it, reviewing the files is useless really. THey've both known each other for years, and their powers aren't a mystery, neither is their fighting styles, so why would he need to look at the files.

he doesn't have to use his hands to fire, though. to change the beam width and intensity, yes, he does, but to fire? no. it opens automatically to whatever preset size its set at.

Forgot about that, but still, Kurt has dodged an almost point blank shot before, I don't think Scott can dodge Kurt porting around him in circles and punching him in the face.

Originally posted by KingD19
Forgot about that, but still, Kurt has dodged an almost point blank shot before, I don't think Scott can dodge Kurt porting around him in circles and punching him in the face.

he doesn't need to if he can predict the most likely direction kurt is going to attack from, which he has done before...

the vanisher could catch him, his teleportation is faster and has less limitation than nightcrawler's.

and the invisible woman could with ease.

But in a serious fight, I doubt he can predict Kurt's moves.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
the vanisher could catch him, his teleportation is faster and has less limitation than nightcrawler's.

and the invisible woman could with ease.

Originally posted by KingD19
And Nightcrawler hasn't? Kurt routinely speedblitzes rooms full of soldiers before they can react. He's multiple times knocked out 4 or more people before the 1st one hits the floor.

If Scott has access to the Xavier files, why wouldn't Kurt? And Kurt can port his limbs off, a version of him was known for it.

And you're forgetting that Kurt is an excellent fighter, who has better reflexes and agility than Scott.

When has Kurt ever speedblitzed someone? I didn't know his speed was comparable to Supermans.

Originally posted by KingD19
Scott has to use his arms to adjust the visor and let the beam through, in the time it takes him to do that, Kurt could port, get a lick in, then port to a new spot. In an actual fight, his physical capabilities, unpredictability, strength, speed, and reflexes give him the win. In the same pic with Cyke hitting Nightcrawler as he ported, it also showed him expecting to miss Kurt, showing he's fast enough to dodge it.

And now that I think about it, reviewing the files is useless really. THey've both known each other for years, and their powers aren't a mystery, neither is their fighting styles, so why would he need to look at the files.

Scott knows his team like the back of his hand. What do you mean Scott expected to miss? He said "I just have to hit him as he materializes" He materialized and he blasted him with a bingo. How does that show he planned on missing?

I meant when he hit Wolverine, he expected Kurt to dodge the 1st shot, which he did, from near point blank range.

And you think Kurt doesn't know Scott just as well? Saying he doesn't is ignorant.

And a speedblitz is a speedblitz, I don't care if it's Flash, Black Adam, Superman, Or Nightcrawler. When you teleport around a room, and knock everyone unconscious before the 1st person you hit falls to the ground.(This is spanning a few seconds at most). It's a speedblitz.

Originally posted by chomperx9
but the 2nd he catches him kurt would just teleport somwhere else. who ever catches him it has to be for good.

Thats a stupid rule. For that to happen they would have to incap him or shut off his teleportation.

Doom does it easily.

Originally posted by chomperx9
who decides 1st of all if a character in that book is cannon or not ? i don't see written on any book or on any characters face that he or she is cannon or not. just cause you don't like what the writer came up with that doesn't verify that what happened is cannon or not.

Did this NC who removes limbs appear in the 616 universe that wasn't a what if?

Originally posted by KingD19
It was AoA Nightcrawler actually, and he ported Deadpool's head off. And Proudstar's finger.

Here's your answer, thats not canon. If it was then The Juggernaut would be dead.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
that's a stupid rule. For that to happen they would have to incap him or shut off his teleportation.

It proves that he can do it though, and 616 Kurt has teleported a man's helmet, strapped firmly to his head, off, without killing the man. If he can do that, he can port a limb. As someone has stated before, 616 Kurt more than likely won't do that, but it doesn't mean he can't.

Originally posted by KingD19
It proves that he can do it though, and 616 Kurt has teleported a man's helmet, strapped firmly to his head, off, without killing the man. If he can do that, he can port a limb. As someone has stated before, 616 Kurt more than likely won't do that, but it doesn't mean he can't.

Since we're talking about being out of character then Scott takes off his visor and delivers a full powered OB all around him.

Originally posted by KingD19
It proves that he can do it though, and 616 Kurt has teleported a man's helmet, strapped firmly to his head, off, without killing the man. If he can do that, he can port a limb. As someone has stated before, 616 Kurt more than likely won't do that, but it doesn't mean he can't.

A character won't do something that is against their beliefs. Teleporitng a helmet off is something he'll do seeing as it doesn't kill nor incredibly hurt someone. Taking a limb is a whole different story and it would probably kill them. Him not wanting to do it is the same thing as him not being able to do it in the end. He can but he won't especially against a hero.

That's what I said, he can do it, but he won't. I'm just stating the fact that it can be done.

And if Scott takes off the visor, blasting everything in front of him, Kurt ports behind him, and kicks him in the back of the head.

Originally posted by KingD19
That's what I said, he can do it, but he won't. I'm just stating the fact that it can be done.

And if Scott takes off the visor, blasting everything in front of him, Kurt ports behind him, and kicks him in the back of the head.

I said all around him.

What does mentioning something he won't accomplish? I may as well say Cyclops flies him into space and suffocates him. What does that mean? That means I also said something that wouldn't happen in this fight.

His full beam isn't a 360.

No, you said something that couldn't happen in this fight. What I said is extremely unlikely, but it is possible.

Originally posted by KingD19
His full beam isn't a 360.

No, you said something that couldn't happen in this fight. What I said is extremely unlikely, but it is possible.

What both of us said was something that won't happen. The scenario is to catch him and nothing else, its not to kill him or maim anyone so why would he even try it? There is no logical explanation as to why he would try to pull a move in this situation.

Do you think Scott is going to be stupid and just take it off and attack first? Take it off wait for him to attack or materialize and blast him.

You people are too funny here. You say Scott can't hit him or predict his movements, we show you that he can and did and you still say no.

And it was shown that Kurt can dodge his beams from point blank range, so it's obvious he can dodge from further than that. And once again, Scott said, Kurt liked to attack from above, so that's how he knew. Do you think he can predict Kurt's every port and move? Do you think Kurt will port above his head every single time?

Originally posted by KingD19
And it was shown that Kurt can dodge his beams from point blank range, so it's obvious he can dodge from further than that. And once again, Scott said, Kurt liked to attack from above, so that's how he knew. Do you think he can predict Kurt's every port and move? Do you think Kurt will port above his head every single time?

Has Kurt ever dodged a blast while materializing?

No he can't predict every single one but he can come close enough. He's an excellent field tactician and knows his team like the back of his hand.