Originally posted by KingD19
No, but Scott was only shown hitting him while materializing that one time so far as I know. And Kurt's a pretty good tactician himself, and he knows Scott just as well as Scott knows him. So I can say Kurt can predict how Scott will shoot his beams.
Thats the one time he tried shooting him while materializing that I know of so, so far he's batting 1000. Kurt is a good tactician? I'm not the biggest Kurt expert, not an expert at all. Mind sharing some of his tactical prowess?
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
I said all around him.
We're talking about Cyclops, not Havok. 😕
Even if Cyke removed his visor, his blast covers a maximum of 180 degrees horizontally, even that may be exaggerated. Theres also the problem of the vertical angle. NC may teleport from directly above his head, or next to his feet.
In several group battle's he's taken command, helped take down the biggest threat, even if it wasn't a known fact, I have no scans, but I've read him doing things like that several times. And Kurt has dodged bullets at point blank range, meaning he can dodge any shot of Cyclops. And as fast as he can port(multiple times in seconds), he can more than likely port again before a blast from Scott reaches him.
Originally posted by Placidity
We're talking about Cyclops, not Havok. 😕Even if Cyke removed his visor, his blast covers a maximum of 180 degrees horizontally, even that may be exaggerated. Theres also the problem of the vertical angle. NC may teleport from directly above his head, or next to his feet.
QUIET! I was countering idiocy with idiocy!
Originally posted by KingD19
But in a serious fight, I doubt he can predict Kurt's moves.
imo, there's no reason he can't. remember, it's cyclops' job to figure out the x-men's weaknesses, so he can make sure they don't get exploited. he supervised almost all the danger room training back in the day. if there was one person who could do it, it'd be scott...
Originally posted by KingD19
[B]I'm not saying it's impossible to take down Kurt, but you guys are making it sound like Nightcrawler can't do anything to Cyclops. [a /B]
Just been arguing what was within character for both
The xavier files are xavier personal thoughts on all xmen and Scott as headmaster is yhenonly one with acccess...
Also you guys argued that kurt would do this or that when he never has... At least not 616 kurt...
Scott spends his waking days figuring out battle scenarios...
Jury spends it as a
Pastor praying and reading...
Originally posted by KingD19
I'm not saying it's impossible to take down Kurt, but you guys are making it sound like Nightcrawler can't do anything to Cyclops.
not saying that at all. if cyke isn't on his game, nightcrawler is going to wtfpwn him. plus, cyclops won't always guess the right attack direction...
Originally posted by rotiart
First off cyclops routinely reviews the files... He's the headmaster... Nightcrawler isn't... So yeah that's why kurt can't read them.Second just cause a non canon kurt can do it doesn't take away from his ability to do it, but the canon one WOULDNT do it. Self imposed heroistic restricions...
And his bodily agility may be better but Scott only has to twitch his eyes no his whole body... You can't compare tuning your head to turning an entire body...
And Scott has disarmed an entire room so quickly even wolverine didn't want to mess with Scott...
And scott tacticle skills have been shown to be a direct comparison I captain America...
He would if Cyke was trying to beam his head off!
Originally posted by Doctor-Alvis
Spider-man can catch Nightcrawler via punch to the mouth. If you mean like Nightcrawler never escapes at all, for life, Spider-man can do it via punch to the back of the head from the front of the head, but that's pretty uncharacteristic.Also, leech maybe.
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Kurt can teleport from bullets! He MURDERS in hand to hand combat which is why both Leech and Spidey are dead meat. Even withut his powers he kicks ass. And the comics have proved it.