You know, for somebody as well acknowledged as Batman, he doesn’t seem to get the credit he deserves when it comes to fighting prowess. Elektra really should lose the majority in a h2h fight against Batman. She’s damn impressive, no doubt about that. However, if you look at the caliber of opponents Batman has beaten in his career, you’ll see why he wins this.
I’ll start with actual battles he’s had against superhumans.
Takes down Solomon Grundy with pressure point strikes:
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Again, beats Solomon Grundy into unconsciousness:
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Knocks Gorilla Grodd the f*ck out with a kick:
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Gains the upper hand on Wonder Woman in a sparring session:
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Stuns Wonder Woman with a pressure point strike:
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He was beating a demon-possessed Wonder Woman until she toppled debris on him:
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Gains the upper hand in a h2h fight against Lobo until some chick breaks it up:
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Fends off an attack by Lobo with a back hand of his own:
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Beats down Aquaman in a fight:
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Punks the Ray pretty easily:
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Defeats numerous cybernetically enhanced Gorillas with heavy armor and telekinetic abilities using pressure points:
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Bloodies up Darkseid:
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Makes Hawkgirl look like a CHILD here:
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Reverts Captain Marvel to Billy Batson here with a kick:
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Now for some impressive showings of strength…
Splits a tree in half like nothing:
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Rips out a metal duct easily and demonstrates great agility in the process:
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Another instance of him batkicking down trees:
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Here, he hurls Dr. Death through a reinforced door designed to withstand the impact of f*ckin’ MISSLES (beats the shit out of anything Elektra has done when it comes to strength):
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Kicks down a steel door:
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Bends the barrel of a gun with his hands:
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Knocks out Deathstroke with one kick:
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Here he is benching roughly over a ton (considering we see a 500 lb. plate in there):
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Now for some agility/speed feats…
Mr. Freeze can’t do shit to Batman at point blank range with his freeze gun:
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Dodges gunfire at close range and then takes down the gunmen:
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Moving in-between machine gunfire with ease and then kicks the Reaper (who is an expert marksman):
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Ducks under a bullet fired at point blank range from Deadshot then takes him down with 1 punch:
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Blitzing various gunmen straight up while evading/withstanding gunfire from other thugs:
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Surrounded by armed guards, he's able to blitz and disarm them before they can react:
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Easily blocking Ivy and Black Spider's rapidly shot poisonous tranqs at the same time with a single batarang and taking them out quickly afterwards:
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Grabs Impulse while he’s speeding around Batman:
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Here he’s able to dodge Superman’s flying punch:
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Here he dodges a sneak heat vision attack before being taken out:
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This is awesome… he steals GL Kyle’s ring away from him, and Kyle had no idea what the f*ck just happened (and jinzin thought Elektra stealing Punisher’s gun was impressive):
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Disappears out of sight from everyone in front of him despite Deadshot shooting rapidly at him within close range… almost super speedster-like:
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Detects a bullet fired by a sniper after its shot at him and quickly dodges it:
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Showing off impressive speed as he eludes bullets at close range, disarms a man with a shotgun before he can react, and purposely falls out the way of bullets only inches away from his body:
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Evades and disappears out of sight of bullets shot at him at 5,000 rounds per minute within close range to the surprise of his evil counterpart The Wrath.
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Catches an arrow shot by Green Arrow behind his back without looking:
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Here, Bruce is hiding in a tree, and an arrow is shot at him without him being aware of it. Then, before the arrow can reach him, he tosses a batarang at it casually, splits it in half, and splits the bow in half as well. This just goes to show how awesome Batman's reflexes/reaction speeds and accuracy are:
His suit allows him almost superhuman durability…
Takes a punch from The General and is shortly right back up afterwards on the attack
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Armor withstands attacks from an OMAC drone with no damage done to it even with the drone using advanced protocols/weaponry:
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Smashed in the back with a wooden chair… nothing:
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Again, gets smashed in the back of the head with a wooden board to no effect:
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To re-establish his urban myth within Gotham, he willingly makes himself a target for snipers and gets shot multiple times but is unfazed:
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Batman doesn’t even need to dodge gunfire:
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Now for some skill feats…
Battles Eddie Hurst who's been driven insane due to a magical stone granting him super strength, speed, and invulnerability. While Bruce proves unable to stop or hurt him physically, he does impressively manage to hold his own against him the entire time with skill and weaponry without being beaten… he even uses the two deadliest strikes in ALL the fighting arts:
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Demonstrates spiritual healing, as he didn’t even feel getting shot in the leg:
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Defeats Cassandra Cain (who most people think is better than Batman… HA!) in h2h and ends the fight with a deadly nerve strike.
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He is able to disrupt Lois Lane's short term memory's transfer with a nerve pinch:
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Easily defeats Green Arrow with a nerve pinch disabling his arm then re-enabling it to move again with a touch:
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Knocks out a thug with mere touches of his finger:
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Takes down a bouncer with a 2 finger touch:
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Despite being ambushed, he battles Karate Kid (Post-Crisis) to an inconclusive stalemate while dishing out combat tips in the middle of battle, showing he is the more experienced fighter of the two:
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Originally posted by batdude123
Yeah... Batman ftw.
Batman's good, he's one of DC's best, but a bunch of feats all over the DC universe don't put him in another league like it doesn't for Captain America.
But when the man can't beat Richard Dragon, barely keeps up with Lady Shiva, or Cassandra Cain, an gets beat down by Deathstroke, one thinks that Elektra who's just as skilled as Bats and as superhuman as Deathstroke, that he won't win.
Originally posted by jinzin
Batman's good, he's one of DC's best, but a bunch of feats all over the DC universe don't put him in another league like it doesn't for Captain America.But when the man can't beat Richard Dragon, barely keeps up with Lady Shiva, or Cassandra Cain, an gets beat down by Deathstroke, one thinks that Elektra who's just as skilled as Bats and as superhuman as Deathstroke, that he won't win.
1. He stalemated Richard Dragon.
2. Shiva has a losing record against Batman.
3. Batman has beaten Cassie twice.
4. Deathstroke is more super human than Elektra. However, both combatants got good shots in, and the very next comic, Slade could barely even move because of his injuries from that fight.
Elektra doesn't get the win here. Batman has much better feats when juxtaposing them with Elektra's.
Originally posted by batdude123
However, both combatants got good shots in, and the very next comic, Slade could barely even move because of his injuries from that fight.
but in the fight...Slade was clearly owning Batman. I think slade got his injuries from the fall he took, since Batman didn't land many hits on Slade at all.
Originally posted by Master-Borg
I think slade got his injuries from the fall he took, since Batman didn't land many hits on Slade at all.
Wrong as usual.
And anyway, this fight ISN'T going to be decided by a single showing for Batman against Deathstroke that he had back in '92. Since then, he's had plenty more impressive showings, as I've posted above.
Batman ftw.
Originally posted by batdude123Well... THAT was dumb...
Here, he hurls Dr. Death through a reinforced door designed to withstand the impact of f*ckin’ MISSLES (beats the shit out of anything Elektra has done when it comes to strength):http://img340.imageshack.us/my.php?image=asdfzp4.jpg
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Originally posted by batdude123
1. He stalemated Richard Dragon.2. Shiva has a losing record against Batman.
3. Batman has beaten Cassie twice.
4. Deathstroke is more super human than Elektra. However, both combatants got good shots in, and the very next comic, Slade could barely even move because of his injuries from that fight.
Elektra doesn't get the win here. Batman has much better feats when juxtaposing them with Elektra's.
1. "he couldn't beat" is what I said. So yeah.
2. Shiva has a losing record being mind controlled and with Robins help.
Batman's acknowledged he's not certain who could win a straight fight.
3. hard fought.
4. Aside from healing factor how so? Does he see into the future? Is he telepathic? Can he block automatic gunfire with a blade? Keep in mind Elektra bore then tossed aside a sword swing from Silver Samurai who was in superhuman class 10 at the time.
Deathstroke has what? Better senses... Maybe.
And I don't think she'd walk away without a scratch, but she'll most likely win.. just like DS did.
Originally posted by jinzinDeathstroke's faster... and he's stronger than what Elektra is normally shown as (which is strong, but not Class 10...)
4. Aside from healing factor how so? Does he see into the future? Is he telepathic? Can he block automatic gunfire with a blade? Keep in mind Elektra bore then tossed aside a sword swing from Silver Samurai who was in superhuman class 10 at the time.Deathstroke has what? Better senses... Maybe.
And I don't think she'd walk away without a scratch, but she'll most likely win.. just like DS did.
Originally posted by Zeitgeist
Deathstroke's faster... and he's stronger than what Elektra is normally shown as (which is strong, but not Class 10...)
deathstroke not shown to be all that strong on average.
speed wises elektra on average is shown pritty much on his level.
DS also not as skilled as elektra nor a tp.
Originally posted by jinzin
1. "he couldn't beat" is what I said. So yeah.2. Shiva has a losing record being mind controlled and with Robins help.
Batman's acknowledged he's not certain who could win a straight fight.3. hard fought.
4. Aside from healing factor how so? Does he see into the future? Is he telepathic? Can he block automatic gunfire with a blade? Keep in mind Elektra bore then tossed aside a sword swing from Silver Samurai who was in superhuman class 10 at the time.
Deathstroke has what? Better senses... Maybe.
And I don't think she'd walk away without a scratch, but she'll most likely win.. just like DS did.
1. The fight ended prematurely.
2. Whether she was mind controlled or not is still to this day speculation.
3. He's beaten her once in two pages worth of fighting...
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And he's also beaten her with one arm behind his back the entire time. 😐
4. Deathstroke's stronger, faster, and more durable than Elektra. Telepathy means nothing in this fight, seeing as how Batman has telepathy blockers built into his cowl, and he's had mystical training which allows him protection from telepathy.
You're bringing up instances that took place in the 80's and early 90's. They're not valid reasons as to why Elektra wins this fight, seeing as how I've given tons upon tons of more recent examples up above. On panel feats show that Batman is superior. Now, whether you want to attribute that to him being one of the most popular characters in comic book history or not is your own prerogative.
Originally posted by Zeitgeist
Well... THAT was dumb...
Originally posted by Battlehammer
and people complain about wolverine
😂 😛
Originally posted by BattlehammerNot as skilled? 😆 Do you know what Slade is capable of? He is skilled enough to solo teams of super heroes but seriously Slade would Thrash Elektra easily.
deathstroke not shown to be all that strong on average.speed wises elektra on average is shown pritty much on his level.
DS also not as skilled as elektra nor a tp.
Seriously, people... you gotta recognize the God damn Batman.
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