Sentry/Firelord vs Russian Zod/Nova(Frankie)

Originally posted by kgkg
Stated by a robot obviously wrong as we see the actually fight.

The fights don't prove anything, as neither one of them contradicts the fact that Zod coming at high speeds twoards Superman and getting a clean jaw punch wouldn't have the same effect.

Originally posted by kgkg
Zod had the Upper hand Superman was still able to get good shots in 🙂

Originally posted by kgkg
No. We clearly see Superman beating him up badly when they had equal source of power. Look at the scans when the fight was suppose to be 50% of both types of energy. Zod doesn't get one hit in. Superman could have easily killed him.

Where did I say otherwise ? Hey, it's obvious that you mis-remembered things, and it happens so I don't hold it against you, but at least don't try to twist things around.

You said that Superman "beat the shit out of Zod" under a Red Sun once he got enough of him. I corrected it, brought evidence, and pointed out that Superman defeated him only after they were on equal grounds, and that while the sun was red he was at a disadvantage.

Now you're trying to make it seem as if I somehow said Zod > Superman. What's up with this ?

I'm not even going to go into the fight, where you completly ignore the fact that Zod has another herald as a teammate, where you presume that for some reason Firelord starts destroying Zod's armor and shooting Yellow sunlight at him or even a better one, presume what yellow sunlight blasts do to Zod while he is under a Red Sun by connecting him to some Superman instance.

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Originally posted by kgkg
From the "Harvest" Action Comics 805.

thankies

Originally posted by Philosophía The fights don't prove anything, as neither one of them contradicts the fact that Zod coming at high speeds twoards Superman and getting a clean jaw punch wouldn't have the same effect.

No. You stated that even if superman “seen that one coming, nothing would have changed”. This is wrong. You used what the robot said as a proven fact. This is kind of like when CM one shoted Superman by sucker punching him. The point was that Zod would not get a clean shot. So something would obviously change.

Originally posted by Philosophía Where did I say otherwise ? Hey, it's obvious that you mis-remembered things, and it happens so I don't hold it against you, but at least don't try to twist things around.

Ok. So you are in agreement that Superman kicked his ass. Beat the shit out of Zod might have been an exaggeration on my part. But Superman was doing “OK” even when depowered. Also he clearly owned him when both were at their normal levels. You were right, I did not remember everything and thx for the correction. But the main point that Superman owned Zod remains true.

Originally posted by Philosophía Now you're trying to make it seem as if I somehow said Zod > Superman. What's up with this ?

I will quote you

Originally posted by Philosophía Superman, in which he<Zod> seems to hold the advantage

Originally posted by Philosophía This feat, when he broke his jaw and was about to kill Superman ?”

Originally posted by Philosophía Superman would have seen that one coming, nothing would have changed

^ Is pretty much saying that Zod had an upper hand on Superman.

No, I never said that Zod > Superman. In case you missed it (which you didn't), I posted the scans in which even after the sun was made so that neither of them would be at a disadvantage, Superman defeated him. It would be stupid after posting that to try and argue that Zod > Superman, especially since the victory was very clear. My other points you adressed ? Let's see. The "Zod seemed to have an advantage" post. Are you contesting the fact that he didn't have an advantage during that fight ? I'm pretty sure not. That was just another example I used to demonstrate Zod's capabilities, not necessarily his superiority over Superman, because that would be illogical since just before that I posted scans showing Superman defeating him. The 'breaking his jaw' instance ? Again, I only posted what was shown on panel. Nowhere did I say that just because Zod can break his jaw, and that the robot confirmed that if Superman would have seen it nothing would have changed, that it means Zod > Superman. All it means is that the hit would have made the same amount of damage even if Superman would have seen it coming. And I already made my position clear here:

Originally posted by Philosophía
The fights don't prove anything, as neither one of them contradicts the fact that Zod coming at high speeds twoards Superman and getting a clean jaw punch wouldn't have the same effect.

Now, I really don't have time for this, especially since it isn't productive. At all.