Originally posted by EnyalusI'm not referring to a battle. I'm referring to when In-Betweener was inside of his sphere. He had his full powers while he was inside of them. It took he and Thanos blasting them in order to shatter the fields. He was attempting to keep up with IB's output, and doing a fine job of it.[/B]
Doesn't change the fact that he would still be grossly outmatched in a battle. The blasts don't really mean anything in that case.
Originally posted by Enyalus ...I just posted it. End of the battle, Thanos was uninjured, and Thor was being blasted back with Mjolnir dropped. That was with help.[/B]
Strange. In another thread with Odin and Thanos being discussed in pretty much the exact same scenario, it's being debated that Thanos is an equal to Odin...hmmm.
Originally posted by Enyalus Or Thanos could've matter manipulated Thor, considering he has those abilities. Or mindraped him. Or did his T-Vo-esque thing (Mind Sync Time Warp). Or blasted him with something other than eyebeams...Thanos didn't use his abilities to their fullest, either. [/B]
Mjolnir > Warlock who at that time was above Thanos durability in terms of matter manip. Mindrape? Perhaps. MSTW? It's only been shown once and it was a specific case if I remember correctly.
Either way, Thor could still get wins if he isn't jobbing. Thanos durability is the biggest threat against a non jobbing Thor.
Originally posted by AvlonHow can Thor defeat him even though he never has? Who has a nonjobbing Thor defeated on Thanos' level before? Name me a top tier that defeated Thanos on panel in a fair fight.
Doesn't change the fact that he would still be grossly outmatched in a battle. The blasts don't really mean anything in that case.Strange. In another thread with Odin and Thanos being discussed in pretty much the exact same scenario, it's being debated that Thanos is an equal to Odin...hmmm.
Mjolnir > Warlock who at that time was above Thanos durability in terms of matter manip. Mindrape? Perhaps. MSTW? It's only been shown once and it was a specific case if I remember correctly.
Either way, Thor could still get wins if he isn't jobbing. Thanos durability is the biggest threat against a non jobbing Thor.
Originally posted by quanchi112
How can Thor defeat him even though he never has? Who has a nonjobbing Thor defeated on Thanos' level before? Name me a top tier that defeated Thanos on panel in a fair fight.
Masterson Thor put Thanos down...a Thanos enhanced by the power gem....
Thanos needed a plot device gun to defeat Thor with the same power up...
Originally posted by Avlon
Doesn't change the fact that he would still be grossly outmatched in a battle. The blasts don't really mean anything in that case.
Originally posted by Enyalus
That's only true via Godblast. Prior to his latest upgrades, Thanos' energy output was nearly on par with the In-Betweener.
Originally posted by Avlon
Strange. In another thread with Odin and Thanos being discussed in pretty much the exact same scenario, it's being debated that Thanos is an equal to Odin...hmmm.
And he's got about a 3% chance of losing to classic Thor. I've done the calculations. h1 helped me with 'em, so I know they're correct.
Originally posted by Avlon
Mjolnir > Warlock who at that time was above Thanos durability in terms of matter manip.
Originally posted by Avlon
Mindrape? Perhaps. MSTW? It's only been shown once and it was a specific case if I remember correctly.
Originally posted by Avlon
Either way, Thor could still get wins if he isn't jobbing. Thanos durability is the biggest threat against a non jobbing Thor.
Thanos is clearly above top tier. That's been evident throughout his career. So he's not going to simply lose to top tiers for the majority. Especially after all of his upgrades and with his tech/shields in play.
Originally posted by AvlonThanos lowered his abilities to give the heroes in general a chance. He wasn't just facing Thor too by the way. Thor knocked him back, but then again so did Spiderman. Thanos defeated Thor with and without the power gem. Thanos wins at the end of the day while Thor doesn't. 🙂
Masterson Thor put Thanos down...a Thanos enhanced by the power gem....Thanos needed a plot device gun to defeat Thor with the same power up...
Originally posted by Kris Blaze
What's keeping Thor from flying up and absorbing all of Thanos energy/releasing it back at him? It's easy to absorb energy with Mjolnir, and it doesn't redirect but AMPLIFIES the energy.
That's like suggesting Quasar can drain the Odinforce out of Mjolnir when they fight.
Originally posted by Enyalus
Oh, are you talking about absorbing Thanos' energy blasts if/when he fires at him?You made it sound like Mjolnir was gonna go up and absorb Thanos' life energies out of his body. 😐
Aaah.
Well he can do that too. He just wouldn't get an opportunity to. There's no reason to believe Thor can't drain his soul.
Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Aaah.Well he can do that too. He just wouldn't get an opportunity to. There's no reason to believe Thor can't drain his soul.
And, if you recall, even when Thor did absorb his blast and redirected it back at the Thanos clone x100 fold, the clone was blown backwards, but got up afterwards without a scratch on him.
I don't recall him being amped at that point in time by any artifacts, either.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos lowered his abilities to give the heroes in general a chance. He wasn't just facing Thor too by the way. Thor knocked him back, but then again so did Spiderman. Thanos defeated Thor with and without the power gem. Thanos wins at the end of the day while Thor doesn't. 🙂
He turned off his cosmic awareness...not his power.
And thanks for bringing up spidey. 😂
Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Aaah.Well he can do that too. He just wouldn't get an opportunity to. There's no reason to believe Thor can't drain his soul.
Like when Warlock did it to one of his clones?
I wonder if that would work with the original considering his servitude to death herself.
Originally posted by Avlon
He turned off his cosmic awareness...not his power.And thanks for bringing up spidey. 😂
Starlin's waaay inconsistant. It was either PIS or Thanos lowered his power to make it a more interesting show for Lady Death to see.
Originally posted by Enyalus
Oh come on, man. 😛And, if you recall, even when Thor did absorb his blast and redirected it back at the Thanos clone x100 fold, the clone was blown backwards, but got up afterwards without a scratch on him.
I don't recall him being amped at that point in time by any artifacts, either.
Without a scratch on him? He was still sent back. Besides, the damage that Thanos' otufit takes really seems to vary.