Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Celestial tech and last time I checked Celestials are above Flash and Speedforce.
Just because you possess Celestial technology, it does not make one extremely powerful like the Celestials. One might possess Celestial technology, but one can also be beaten.
Apocalypse is all the proof we need of that.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Just because you possess Celestial technology, it does not make one extremely powerful like the Celestials. One might possess Celestial technology, but one can also be beaten.Apocalypse is all the proof we need of that.
Thats because Marvel decides to write Apocalypse as a jobber. Why would Celestial technology be weak though? The tech Hulk had was able to stop him, thats what Apocalypse was testing too. Hulk on his own has never stopped Cain and Flash won't either.
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Thats because Marvel decides to write Apocalypse as a jobber. Why would Celestial technology be weak though? The tech Hulk had was able to stop him, thats what Apocalypse was testing too. Hulk on his own has never stopped Cain and Flash won't either.
He has never been able to stop Juggernaut?
I recall World War Hulk stopping Juggernaut, but he probably was using his strength and not his unstoppable power.
If one has Celestial technology, it does not make one a God or all powerful etc.
Beings with Celestial technology have lost in the past.
Either way, Infinite Mass, should stop Juggernaut. Infinite Mass, is something that Wally West can reach.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
He has never been able to stop Juggernaut?I recall World War Hulk stopping Juggernaut, but he probably was using his strength and not his unstoppable power.
If one has Celestial technology, it does not make one a God or all powerful etc.
Beings with Celestial technology have lost in the past.
Either way, Infinite Mass, should stop Juggernaut. Infinite Mass, is something that Wally West can reach.
WWH did not stop him. They locked up and Cain was pushing him back.
War Hulk wasn't a God or anything. He still didn't hurt Cain, he just stopped him which is what the tech is for.
How should IM stop Cain's magical enchantment? Does the SF always trump magic?
Originally posted by Original SmurphCorrection sufficient force has shown to slow Cain.
Sufficient force has been used to stop the Juggernaut in the past.This is infinite force... theoretically.
Don't try that Onlaught or War Hulk stuff with me either I know better on that than most people here. 😛
As to this infinite mass punch. Like most things "infinite" in comics. It's nothing but a word.
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
WWH did not stop him. They locked up and Cain was pushing him back.War Hulk wasn't a God or anything. He still didn't hurt Cain, he just stopped him which is what the tech is for.
How should IM stop Cain's magical enchantment? Does the SF always trump magic?
So he slowed him down then. I believe Cain was using his strength.
War Hulk was able to stop him. That's my point. Sufficient force has been shown to stop Cain in the past, on different occasions and logic means it can do so again.
Infinite Mass is just that. Infinite Mass. The Universe doesn't collapse on itself or something like that because the Speed Force, cancels out's the affects as it does all the time. At least I hope.
Either way, less than that has stopped Cain in the past.
Sufficient force has stopped him in the past, and will do so again.
Originally posted by NewjakHmm... well, I suppose we could always bring up the godblast.
Correction sufficient force has shown to slow Cain.Don't try that Onlaught or War Hulk stuff with me either I know better on that than most people here. 😛
Originally posted by NewjakNo reason to believe that...
As to this infinite mass punch. Like most things "infinite" in comics. It's nothing but a word.
Originally posted by Original SmurphYup cause the Godblast isn't a mystical force of godly energy. It's amazing how something like that could stop Cain for a moment when mystical forces can effect him 😛
Hmm... well, I suppose we could always bring up the godblast.No reason to believe that...
Ok semantics aside from the word infinite in comics.
There's no reason to believe Flash could ever reach infinite to begin with. Since he's never done it, and someone approaching infinite will never reach infinite to begin with because, get this one, something would already have to be infinite to ever actually reach infinite.
I mean you can approach infinite just by running doesn't mean you'll ever get there. 😉