Originally posted by cloud102
How is he a more powerhouse than Orion?
Without his hammer, Beta Ray Bill was able to hang with Thor.
Orion taking down the original Beta Ray Bill, would be a very good fight. Orion will have to work for it, and he will be hard pressed to win.
With Stormbreaker, Beta Ray Bill, better known as Beta Ray Thor is even more powerful from what I understand and give him the striking power of Stormbreaker, and Orion goes down.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Without his hammer, Beta Ray Bill was able to hang with Thor.Orion taking down the original Beta Ray Bill, would be a very good fight. Orion will have to work for it, and he will be hard pressed to win.
With Stormbreaker, Beta Ray Bill, better known as Beta Ray Thor is even more powerful from what I understand and give him the striking power of Stormbreaker, and Orion goes down.
Without Orion's gear, he was able to stand up to Superman (Amped), Darkseid, and knocked down Kalibak with one move in the later appearances.
Darkseid jobs a lot so it doesn't matter.
Superman amped?
To what degree?
The original Beta Ray Bill could hang with Thor to an extent, meaning he can obviously hang with the likes of Superman, Orion etc.
Throw in the fact that Beta Ray Thor has Stormbreaker and is more powerful, and he wins this fight evidently.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Darkseid jobs a lot so it doesn't matter.Superman amped?
To what degree?
The original Beta Ray Bill could hang with Thor to an extent, meaning he can obviously hang with the likes of Superman, Orion etc.
Throw in the fact that Beta Ray Thor has Stormbreaker and is more powerful, and he wins this fight evidently.
In the Dominus arc, I believe Superman was amped to a degree. The only one who could have gone toe to toe with him was Orion, so they sent him. Barda played a distraction as well, but that wasn't the only time Orion has faced Superman.
Orion fared pretty well, when Superman was brainwashed. Orion even smacked Superman around and feared to use his Astro Force. With it, he took down Superman in Superman Confidential.
Orion is clearly a better fighter than Bill and has even demonstrated it against Valkyrie, Darkseid (who had respect at the time), and has even fought in the fire pits, which is a lot hotter than the sun itself. Orion has incredible durability.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Without his hammer, Beta Ray Bill was able to hang with Thor.Orion taking down the original Beta Ray Bill, would be a very good fight. Orion will have to work for it, and he will be hard pressed to win.
With Stormbreaker, Beta Ray Bill, better known as Beta Ray Thor is even more powerful from what I understand and give him the striking power of Stormbreaker, and Orion goes down.
What are you, drunk?
BRB can hang with Thor sans his hammer. With their hammers they're roughly equals, only Thor's feats trump his.
Originally posted by cloud102
In the Dominus arc, I believe Superman was amped to a degree. The only one who could have gone toe to toe with him was Orion, so they sent him. Barda played a distraction as well, but that wasn't the only time Orion has faced Superman.Orion fared pretty well, when Superman was brainwashed. Orion even smacked Superman around and feared to use his Astro Force. With it, he took down Superman in Superman Confidential.
Orion is clearly a better fighter than Bill and has even demonstrated it against Valkyrie, Darkseid (who had respect at the time), and has even fought in the fire pits, which is a lot hotter than the sun itself. Orion has incredible durability.
What does this all prove?
Superman recently stalemated Orion even with his gear.
Those two are near equals.
Beta Ray Thor can hang with the likes of Thor, and other power houses. He was born in scorching heat. It's where he thrives.
Either way, Beta Ray Thor with Stormbreaker, would defeat Superman in a hand to hand fight. Orion is no different.