Honestly I see her as versatile, not overpowered. Even if she used these three abilities the best way she can then she still gets stomped by the people we've been fighting. Nakoma suffocates her, Dormammu breathes on her, Amatsu eats her. Even the top tier heroes would thrash her, Thor destroys her, Surfer and Sentry can blitz her, she can't beat Juggernaut or Titannus, Strange and Doom can mop the floor with her. Loki makes her cry in the fetal position. I can't think of anyone we've fought that wasn't a cannon fodder villain that she'd beat by herself or even prove a worthy challenge to them. I've rped with Miria, I don't think she'd make Cox go all out and phase through everything and only take hits that can empower her. Sure she could be very effective if going all out but a lot of our characters could.
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Honestly I see her as versatile, not overpowered. Even if she used these three abilities the best way she can then she still gets stomped by the people we've been fighting. Nakoma suffocates her, Dormammu breathes on her, Amatsu eats her. Even the top tier heroes would thrash her, Thor destroys her, Surfer and Sentry can blitz her, she can't beat Juggernaut or Titannus, Strange and Doom can mop the floor with her. Loki makes her cry in the fetal position. I can't think of anyone we've fought that wasn't a cannon fodder villain that she'd beat by herself or even prove a worthy challenge to them. I've rped with Miria, I don't think she'd make Cox go all out and phase through everything and only take hits that can empower her. Sure she could be very effective if going all out but a lot of our characters could.
I belive his point is who says we are always gonna fight the likes of those?Right now could care less but what happens if we get attacked by the likes of ...forgot their names but it happened before the move to asgard.Personaly I could care less about this anymore but one thing did alter me and I personally would just like to know.If she can phase through an element attack but can feel the temp.Isn't it the basic that an element attack such as fire and ice or really more phsyical in this case?For example.let's say johnny storm or bobby drake attack her and she phases exactly how does the temp alone effect her?I'm almost pretty sure I've misunderstood your charactor but can't hurt to ask right...wait forget the temp part I just did an quick scan.I thought I saw that but it kind still applies...ah found it
Originally posted by Venomancer
I belive his point is who says we are always gonna fight the likes of those?Right now could care less but what happens if we get attacked by the likes of ...forgot their names but it happened before the move to asgard.Personaly I could care less about this anymore but one thing did alter me and I personally would just like to know.If she can phase through an element attack but can feel the temp.Isn't it the basic that an element attack such as fire and ice or really more phsyical in this case?For example.let's say johnny storm or bobby drake attack her and she phases exactly how does the temp alone effect her?I'm almost pretty sure I've misunderstood your charactor but can't hurt to ask right...wait forget the temp part I just did an quick scan.I thought I saw that but it kind still applies
Well considering we've been fighting them since the beginning and I know for a fact that the guy we're facing next would give her a week's notice of an alleged ass whooping she's getting from him, tell her to prepare for the fight and still royally hand her ass to her. We've fought cannon fodder villains that she could beat, but she's not the only one that could. We haven't fought a main villain that she could beat by herself or even provide a challenge to. IIRC Miria told me that she can't phase through being frozen or anything like that. She's still susceptible to fliers, magic, those with the strength to overloead her in a few punches IE Hulk, Thor, Juggernaut Hercules, hell even Wolverine should be challenging for her if Adamantium can hit intangible beings.
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Originally posted by Phantom MiriaNate the impact can be phased through so if you phase through impact how can the temp possibly bother you since it will rapidly rise back to room temp.If this is the case wouldn't even phasing in the winter hurt and render her the effects of cold?That's like saying an phasing shadowkat or jesse can be harmed once phased by an elemental but I will say I love how the charactor is uncommon
[b]2] Her weaknesses are not negated. She is highly vulnerable to magical and elemental attacks. She can phase through the impact, but she will still sense the heat and the cold, the intensity of magical energies or the effect of a sickness [/B]
Originally posted by Venomancer
Nate the impact can be phased through so if you phase through impact how can the temp possibly bother you since it will rapidly rise back to room temp.If this is the case wouldn't even phasing in the winter hurt and render her the effects of cold?That's like saying an phasing shadowkat or jesse can be harmed once phased by an elemental but I will say I love how the charactor is uncommon
Well one, you're only focusing on one thing when there is more than one way to beat her, but if say she was fighting Johnny and he said screw you supernova *****! You don't think the heat from a supernova is going to bother her? Since she's weak and extremely vulnerable then it'll have an extra damage effect I'm assuming like how a Thunderbolt can hurt a Bulbasaur but that same bolt would fry a Squirtle. That's not like saying that at all, they're not vulnerable to elemental attacks while phasing. Miria is, it's a weakness the creator put on her. Kitty and Jesse have their own weaknesses. Aren't phasers in MX only allowed to phase as long as they can hold their breath and they can kill themselves or get permanently stuck inside things if they do it too long?
Let me explain the downsides with being exposed to cold, since it seems like it is not known just how big a weakness it actually is:
Intensive cold, even if only exposed to for even a second inflict an extremely high strain to the human mind and body. The reason you get cold is because your heart can not pump at a rate adequate to keep your body warm to match the temperature of the cold. So cold effect the bloodflow of your body. When this happen, your limbs get slow, your heart beats harder and you get a shortage of breath. What also happens is that your mind suffer the effects of hypothermia, which result in a case of brain sickness.
In layman words: The thermoregulation capabilities of the human body becomes overwhelmed by environmental stress and the body fail to cope.
Let me list the problems for you, if you have not yet figured them out: Reflexes exaggerated; speech disordered; thinking slowed; shivering; breathing faster; retrograde amnesia; consciousness clouded; progressive loss of consciousness; increased muscular rigidity; irregular heart beat.
Final touch; No electrical activity in brain.
So excuse me if I unlike you do not see how someone who is extra vulnerable to temperature shifting will not have a problem
I will get right on explaining why it is bad to be too warm, but for now I am just going to post this.
If you think that a person would stop being cold immediately after the ice bolt has passed through and that the body will simply recover as if it never was cold, you need to get your mind straightened. Heat and cold is not an On and Off switch. You are not cold one second and the other back to regular temperature.
Moving on to heat:
When you are exposed to a high amount of heat, the most significant event is that not only your heart begin to work in order to cool the body down, but your mind is trying to save you from mental strain. You will start shivering, because your mind is telling your body that things are getting too hot. Something needs to be done. Shivering in itself is enough a weakness to be the fall of any man, because it bring you the effect of trembling, it lower your alertness, it dampen your muscles.
When you are exposed to high heat, other than sweating and shivering, you will fall victim of nausea, headache, and dizziness. For someone that has the function of a bottle when it comes to her powers, this is not a good thing. Because one of her power inflict mental strain on her, suffering nausea, headache and dizziness is not something you should combine.
Moving on: High amounts of heat will cause impending loss of consciousness and even circulatory collapse, which is even worse than being exposed to cold and have your heart beat faster. Further more, brain, liver, kidneys and even the prevental mechanism of blood clotting begin to faulter at high heat. You become dehydrated, your skin becomes dry and you attain shortage of breath.
You might say: "That is results of prolonged exposure of heat". Sure, that is true. It is. Prolonged exposure of heat under the sun in real life. Here we are talking about someone who is not only additionally vulnerable to elemental attacks, but should she be shot upon she only has the human conditions as her defense and should you even throw a campfire through her, she would feel the heat of the flames and it would immediately get the body started.
Although I assume people have this image of Cox here being able to walk through intensive pain and just shrug it of, merely because it is a fictional character and this is a roleplay that revolve around fighting. Let me ask you this then: Would you be able to continue walking as if nothing had happened, if you even for a second felt the heat of fire through your entire body? The chikk from ice? Give me a break. Shoot a fireball through a phasing Cox and she will stumble and vomit. Shoot an iceball through Cox and she will falter and shiver.
If you think these weaknesses are small and insignificant, you either have not spent enough time in school or you are highly underestimating me and my abilities as a roleplayer.
Originally posted by jalek moye
Ridiculous conclusions based on logic, and saying and implying negative things about me doesn't really help your case. As indicated by the "o I wonder why that would be" I stated if anyone has problems because people sometimes do when things involve their friends.Phasing through the impact will avoid most magic attacks unless they are supposed to be extended in effect. and Magical attacks can be anything if it's physical it would still be. You misunderstand the thing about not being able to outfight, its that in combination with other things that is a problem. And most types of energy do physical damage to the person, the talk about their speed isn't as important when she uses her telepathy in combat so that she can't be outdone, works the same for all types of attacks. So of course she could think about it making her body convert it unless she doesn't think very fast, or her mind doesn't naturally make her body do things. And yea as a phaser she can absorb impact and phase though, pretty much makes it so she doesn't have to be exposed to overloading. And if it really boosts her attributes to unknown limits shouldn't take long to to put the other person down or escape and suffer later; actually with the it boosting her speed and durability she shouldnt have to even absorb the other ones.. And you mean other then strikes, energy blasts, and mental attacks. Then yes that leaves certain types of magic, but it all depends on the nature of the magic and the extent of the effect.
And yes a person can be over powered and Melee based, it does happen. Maybe you disagree but I think so which obviously has an effect on my rulings.
Let me lay this out for you:
Her Kinetic empowerment knows no bounds, but her mind does. Let us say she decide to convert an attack made by Hercules, the character you prance around with. With him being an easy Class 100 character, he would virtually immediately overload her if she tried to convert the Kinetic energies.
You seem to be having your own idea of how her powers work. I find that a little rude, that you jump to conclusions without taking it up with me first. So here it is: While she has the choice not to convert Kinetic energies, she is still exposed to it, although spiritually. She feel the Kinetic energy, but she does not take immediate damage from it. Imagine someone playing a high pitch sound near you. Do you not cover your ears? Now imagine someone punching you with a high pitch sound, only instead of ears, make that your body and instead of covering your ears, lets say you cringe. Too much Kinetic energy involved will effect Cox regardless if she phase or not.
Now lets move over to her stocked up Kinetic energy. You think that it is an On and Off switch and that she can just convert and use left and right. It is a very straining effect for her and the more she has bottled up, the harder things get for her. Sure, at her peak she could probably send Hercules flying and even make him feel that she hit him, but should she have that much Kinetic energy bottled up, her mind is literally already in flames. She would be in mental torment.
The thing about her powers, is the fact that she can control how much Kinetic she take in, but not the strain it has on her mind. This forces her to be strategical. Little to no mental strain, but physically weak. Very strained mentally, but physically strong for a few moves.
She is not an idiot. I am not an idiot. She will not use her Kinetic convertion every chance she gets. Its not worth it. Lets say you are sent out on a one week mission and you come across a bad guy on the first day. Mental strain is not so easily shrugged of. Would she really risk exhaustion and worthlessness simply because she has an opportunity to use her power? Give me a break. I am not a "win whore", nor is she. Her own power is as dangerous to her as a villain is, if it is used frequently.
You claim she is overpowered. I claim this: The human body can be repaired. The human brain can not. Do you really think that someone who take mental injury rather than physical is more powerful than many of the brickwalls in this roleplay?
I have seen how you roleplay in this roleplay. Overpowered? Give me a break. She will be dead long before any of the current regulars and she will accomplish less. I am not your common "I have these powers. I will win this and this fight. I am awesome. I am invincible", I am your uncommon "I got hit. I died"
Originally posted by Phantom Miria
[b]I have seen how you roleplay in this roleplay. Overpowered? Give me a break. She will be dead long before any of the current regulars and she will accomplish less. I am not your common "I have these powers. I will win this and this fight. I am awesome. I am invincible", I am your uncommon "I got hit. I died" [/B]
Before i respond, it appears to me you are implying something. Care to elaborate?
Originally posted by jalek moye
Before i respond, it appears to me you are implying something. Care to elaborate?
I am saying this: Her powers are as much an enemy to her as any villain you can throw at her. You have characters like Hercules, Colossus, Wolverine, Deadpool, Valkyrie and more in this roleplay. Each and every one of those would beat her in a fight. She will die long before any of those.
The key section of this is: She will die. She CAN die. 99% of all roleplayers on the internet treat their characters like they would themselves in real life, disregarding personality and realism when it comes down to a scene where the character might die (This if they were in control of everything that happened to them). They save the character, either by temporarily, silently changing the personality or by applying luck to the roleplay and thanks to luck had the character survive.
Sure, it is within her ability to predict every immediate attack made against her. It is also, however, within her ability to kill herself mentally if she gets careless or too eager to win a battle. If this character had been controled by any novice roleplayer out there, she could end up overpowered because those people would disregard the magnitude of her weaknesses and they would certainly not ever have her overload herself.
I on the other hand, I have been roleplaying for over twelve years. I do not care if my character gets hurt. I do not care if my character dies. I am a God damn professional and I stick with the personality and the weaknesses of the character to the end.
Unlike the majority of the roleplayers out there, I focus on my characters weaknesses and not her strengths and powers. Sure you will see her kick some ass, but you will also see her more on her knees gasping and aching than any other character in this roleplay. Why? Because THAT is her powers. She strain herself to defeat others. THAT is her personality. She can give it her all and die defending her allied.