Lucifer can't even create his own energy, Michael is the only one who could. So Lucifer's feats are ridiculous compared to the Living Tribunal's. The only argument he has going for him, is that he was second to the Presence--the same Presence who was shaped by forces external to himself. But that doesn't say much because the greatest feat in all of Vertigo was a work of Michael and Lucifer, the creation of a universe (which was later retconned to a Multiverse in Nirvana).
The Living Tribunal is second only to The-One-Above-All, but how powerful is he really? We'll the said title puts him over beings that has almost unlimited power and authority over the Marvel Omniverse. If we go by feats, he held two Megaverses in the palm of his hand.
The Living Tribunal takes all three down with minor effort.
Originally posted by Astner
Lucifer can't even create his own energy, Michael is the only one who could. So Lucifer's feats are ridiculous compared to the Living Tribunal's. The only argument he has going for him, is that he was second to the Presence--the same Presence who was shaped by forces external to himself. But that doesn't say much because the greatest feat in all of Vertigo was a work of Michael and Lucifer, the creation of a universe (which was later retconned to a Multiverse in Nirvana).The Living Tribunal is second only to The-One-Above-All, but how powerful is he really? We'll the said title puts him over beings that has almost unlimited power and authority over the Marvel Omniverse. If we go by feats, he held two Megaverses in the palm of his hand.
The Living Tribunal takes all three down with minor effort.
actually the greatest feat in vertigo was lucifer escaping predestination and threatening yahweh directly. and no, you havent seem to have read lucifer, seeing as elaine herself, without lucifer's power, already created her own multiverse which stood as a third creation alongside yahweh's and lucifers. ofcourse you might also call the wrapping of three multiverses into one by lucifer and his comrades as vertigos greatest feat, or lucifer taking in the entire timestream of another multiverse in the blink of an eye.
and lucifer can pretty easily obliterate a multiverse without draining his power.
and terms like megaverse and omniverse mean nuthing if there is no common ground to compare them on, realistically, LT held two universes in the multiverse that he guides. marvel has claim over nothing more than a single megaverse.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
but the source is only one aspect of the presence, who made everything. its a universal entity whose power is bound by the wall. and it cudnt reattach itself with the anti life because of the monitors.
Not everything in Countdown was correct only what Superman or the reader could understand as everything in the Fourth World is much higher. The Source made the multiverse/universe as it is at very end and beginning, outside of that is Heaven and its darker half Hell along with other dimensions like the Fourth World and the Third World or where the Monitors are/were.