Originally posted by quanchi112
Guardians of the galaxy. Lucy has always been vastly overrated imo.
as it so happens, i have read guardians of the galaxy, atleast upto a bit into the war of kings. what does that have to do with anything?
how can you say he is overrated when i know for a fact that you havent read lucifer or sandman?
^debate what, his power is enough to create 50% of the multiverse and hes done it 1-2 times and each time it doesnt have any visible ill effect on his power level. he has withstood multiverse shattering force without a scratch at ground zero. his peers alone{elaine} can create a multiverse from scratch. he can survive without space time or existance. he escaped predestination. and in his world words like multiverse actually mean multiverse unlike most places in marvel and many in dc where linguistic guages of power level are used to debate without making sense.
Originally posted by xJLxKing
Oh god!
Lucifer can't create energy, whereas the likes of Silver Surfer can.
Vertigo is set in a completely different setting. It's more down-to-earth, there are no ridiculously high feats and the ones that suggest that Lucifer could destroy "creations" are nothing but fanboys and wouldn't be capable of proving their claim if their lives depended on it.
Lucifer's greatest feat was shaping an alternate creation. He got the "stuff" to do so out of Michael's death.
The Living Tribunal held two megaverses in his palm, Lucifer's and Michael's creation would be an infinitesimal part in one of those megaverses.
The Living Tribunal would, based on feats, destroy the entire Vertigo setting--including the "restricted" Presence--since no feat in Vertigo are even close to having complete dominion over two megaverses.
Originally posted by leonheartmm😬
as it so happens, i have read guardians of the galaxy, atleast upto a bit into the war of kings. what does that have to do with anything?how can you say he is overrated when i know for a fact that you havent read lucifer or sandman?
Not current gotg, the first series.
Ps. If you read the current then how wouldn't you know this.
Originally posted by Astner
How to put this in terms you can comprehend.Lucifer can't create energy, whereas the likes of Silver Surfer can.
Vertigo is set in a completely different setting. It's more down-to-earth, there are no ridiculously high feats and the ones that suggest that Lucifer could destroy "creations" are nothing but fanboys and wouldn't be capable of proving their claim if their lives depended on it.
Lucifer's greatest feat was shaping an alternate creation. He got the "stuff" to do so out of Michael's death.
The Living Tribunal held two megaverses in his palm, Lucifer's and Michael's creation would be an infinitesimal part in one of those megaverses.
The Living Tribunal would, based on feats, destroy the entire Vertigo setting--including the "restricted" Presence--since no feat in Vertigo are even close to having complete dominion over two megaverses.
Originally posted by Astner
How to put this in terms you can comprehend.Lucifer can't create energy, whereas the likes of Silver Surfer can.
Vertigo is set in a completely different setting. It's more down-to-earth, there are no ridiculously high feats and the ones that suggest that Lucifer could destroy "creations" are nothing but fanboys and wouldn't be capable of proving their claim if their lives depended on it.
Lucifer's greatest feat was shaping an alternate creation. He got the "stuff" to do so out of Michael's death.
The Living Tribunal held two megaverses in his palm, Lucifer's and Michael's creation would be an infinitesimal part in one of those megaverses.
The Living Tribunal would, based on feats, destroy the entire Vertigo setting--including the "restricted" Presence--since no feat in Vertigo are even close to having complete dominion over two megaverses.
are you honestly LISTENING to yourself??!!!! go READ lucifer before you start making ridiculous statement based on your dislike of him.
lucifer CAN create energy, he IS energy, what he cant create is MATTER out of nothing. lucifer creates energy and time and micheal creates matter and space.
they arent fanboys, micheal's demiurgic explosion was stated on panel to have the power to completely detsroy the multiverse on two different occasions having major consequences on the stroyline {first being the defeat of the angelic host and creation of lucifer's multiverse and the second being micheal giving his power to elaine}. they have the same level of power and lucifer's light bringer powers can do the same thing. also, the TWO brothers being required to create a multiverse was refuted IN lucifer later, when elaine, with only micheal's power having no energy contribution from lucifer was able to create and shape her own multiverse, the third one.
LT did not hold two MEGAverses in one hand, on panel means less than shit if it doesnt follow norms of legal comic book convention. the entire marvel reality is a megaverse, NOT an omniverse, as omniverse includes all comic book and other media. LT held two UNIVERSES of the singular multiverse which is contained in the marvel megaverse along wiht the void and the beyond realm. this is not debateable unless you want to change the meaning of words.
for the love of god, go and read sandman/lucifer.
Originally posted by leonheartmmIf you read it why would you claim you read the current series when it obviously has nothing to do with the Lt and the said feat?
ive read it, im saying your wrong and lying yet again, just like your previous claim concering prime and the anti monitor has been proved to be a false delusion.
Here we go with you bringing up other threads again. 🙄
^ehhhhhhhhhhhh? YOU r the one making the claim on behalf of LT's power based on said series. i said ive read the same series and have not seen anything to justify the feats or power levels you describe and ask you what having read the said series has to do with your claim of said character's power level. its one of those things you do, go through an entire paradigm shift after enough replies have passed on the initial argument that most people find it hard to remember the actual thing under discussion.
Originally posted by leonheartmmLt performed the feat in gotg. You can't deny it. Do you know the circumstances involved in that arc since you claimed you read it?
^ehhhhhhhhhhhh? YOU r the one making the claim on behalf of LT's power based on said series. i said ive read the same series and have not seen anything to justify the feats or power levels you describe and ask you what having read the said series has to do with your claim of said character's power level. its one of those things you do, go through an entire paradigm shift after enough replies have passed on the initial argument that most people find it hard to remember the actual thing under discussion.