Originally posted by quanchi112
Anyone who claims that skrulls cannot replicate powers and denies that BB was a skrull can't read these comics. He referenced secret invasion when they were replicating powers all over the place. I mean it's downright pathetic.
LMAO!!!!!!! REPLICATING is different from using technology to emulate or genetically ENGINEERING a being with similar powers as others. dont pretent that they are synonomous and that you have a point. you have been proven wrong on the fact that you beleive the skrulls can merely REPLICATE powers due to your ignorance of how the skrulls emulated the powers of earth heroes in secret invasion. concede.
on a side not, even the super skrulls can not gain the powers of herald level beings etc, so i do find it hard to assume that any skrull can merely engineer the destructive power of BB which is one of the strongets on earth. that was my whole point, it was an inconsistant retcon since i dont beleiev any singular skrull has the power to really harm hulk in world war hulk.
I guess Marvel is lying once again EH!
http://www.marvel.com/news/comicstories.1924.Ask_a_Skrull:_Black_Bolt
"Black Bolt"
Revealed!
Another alien bombshell dropped a couple weeks back in NEW AVENGERS: ILLUMINATI #5 as that group's "Black Bolt" stood revealed as an insidious Skrull infiltrator prepping for Secret Invasion!
How long has the supposed monarch of the Inhumans been a Skrull? What did he learn during his tenure with the Illuminati? And did he and Medusa…y'know…
The same one that was in WWH.
Now, whats this about Super Skrulls can not gain the powers of herald level beings????
Originally posted by leonheartmmSecret Invasion showed they could replicate BB's powers. That was what was in question. Skrulls can't just replicate the powers of someone on sight.
yes you are, history proves this.the super skrull was designed to fight the fantastic four and had those powers designed in him, reguardless, he cudnt replicate the powers of herald levels etc and hasnt replicated any other powers that i am aware of. so unless you want to claim that skrulls can sumhow replicate blackbolt's power to such a degree as to harm world war hulk, i suggest you concede that it was an inconcistant retcon.
your not one to be talking buddy, lmao, youve already conceded that blck bolt screamed which you were initially denying while claiming to be SURE OF YOURSELF.
Originally posted by leonheartmmI wanted to put the other quote up to remind you that you denied this and it was clearly the theme of secret invasion.
LMAO!!!!!!! REPLICATING is different from using technology to emulate or genetically ENGINEERING a being with similar powers as others. dont pretent that they are synonomous and that you have a point. you have been proven wrong on the fact that you beleive the skrulls can merely REPLICATE powers due to your ignorance of how the skrulls emulated the powers of earth heroes in secret invasion. concede.on a side not, even the super skrulls can not gain the powers of herald level beings etc, so i do find it hard to assume that any skrull can merely engineer the destructive power of BB which is one of the strongets on earth. that was my whole point, it was an inconsistant retcon since i dont beleiev any singular skrull has the power to really harm hulk in world war hulk.
Skrulls can be engineered to replicate the powers of certain beings. I never said they can do it on the fly. Once again I was correct and you weren't.
Again, this skrull BB has nothing to do with the real BB.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
LMAO!!!!!!! REPLICATING is different from using technology to emulate or genetically ENGINEERING a being with similar powers as others. dont pretent that they are synonomous and that you have a point. you have been proven wrong on the fact that you beleive the skrulls can merely REPLICATE powers due to your ignorance of how the skrulls emulated the powers of earth heroes in secret invasion. concede.on a side not, even the super skrulls can not gain the powers of herald level beings etc, so i do find it hard to assume that any skrull can merely engineer the destructive power of BB which is one of the strongets on earth. that was my whole point, it was an inconsistant retcon since i dont beleiev any singular skrull has the power to really harm hulk in world war hulk.
Dude, I've been telling you that all this time....
They can replicate the powers of other specific heroes, but genetically engineering Super Skrulls. They don't replicate on the spot.
Who said that they cannot gain the powers of herald level beings?
That Super Skrull was extremely powerful. When he revealed his true form, he was taking on, the entire Illuminati.
His Black Bolt powers such as his voice is not as powerful as the Black Bolt which is obvious. They're singular abilities are not as powerful, but they make up for it with multiple abilities.
I don't recall that ever being said. It wasn't an inconsistent retcon. Black Bolt was meant to be a Skrull for a long time.
Secret Invasion showed they could replicate BB's powers. That was what was in question. Skrulls can't just replicate the powers of someone on sight.
I wanted to put the other quote up to remind you that you denied this and it was clearly the theme of secret invasion.Skrulls can be engineered to replicate the powers of certain beings. I never said they can do it on the fly. Once again I was correct and you weren't.
Again, this skrull BB has nothing to do with the real BB.
no i did not, i denied that SKRULLS cud replicate powers, i didnt deny that they cud ENGINEER powers, im as aware of super skrull's origins as you, probably more so.
yes u did, just not in so many words. otherwise you wudnt have been so surprised when i said that blackbolt cant really defeat an enraged hulk. once again your ignorant and sidestepping while im not.
pick one, either skrulls can replicate black bolt's power enough to harm hulk in world war hulk or they can NOT. you cant keep going between both when either is convenient.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Dude, I've been telling you that all this time....They can replicate the powers of other specific heroes, but genetically engineering Super Skrulls. They don't replicate on the spot.
Who said that they cannot gain the powers of herald level beings?
That Super Skrull was extremely powerful. When he revealed his true form, he was taking on, the entire Illuminati.
His Black Bolt powers such as his voice is not as powerful as the Black Bolt which is obvious. They're singular abilities are not as powerful, but they make up for it with multiple abilities.
I don't recall that ever being said. It wasn't an inconsistent retcon. Black Bolt was meant to be a Skrull for a long time.
what you fail to realise is that im not diagreeing with that, i was pointing out that quan was wrong about REPLICATING, which he was and which is different from angineering into a being at birth.
and no, they can not take on herald level powers, otherwise, they wud have done so already and not have to bow down to the kree or the annihlation wave or had much problem taking over earth for that matter. point in case, it is still inconsistant to think that any skrull can replicate the powers of blackbolt to the extent that he can harm the hulk from world war hulk. no1 but the real blackbolt cud do that and the retcon remains inconcistant.
Originally posted by leonheartmmThis skrull did phase the Hulk, but not enough to beat him. The blast wasn't sufficiently powerful enough to do so. Stark's satellites were though.
not to the extent that they cud harm a hulk who was going toe to toe with sentry. an stop pretending. the whole theme of my post was that blackbolt's whisper cudnt put hulk down with ease, you denied this and were obviously supporting the replicating theme which is different from engineering.no i did not, i denied that SKRULLS cud replicate powers, i didnt deny that they cud ENGINEER powers, im as aware of super skrull's origins as you, probably more so.
yes u did, just not in so many words. otherwise you wudnt have been so surprised when i said that blackbolt cant really defeat an enraged hulk. once again your ignorant and sidestepping while im not.
pick one, either skrulls can replicate black bolt's power enough to harm hulk in world war hulk or they can NOT. you cant keep going between both when either is convenient.
You denied that they could make a skrull with BB's powers. It's plain as day. They did just that. 😂
What does WW Hulk beating a skrull have to do with the real BB? Are you this ignorant?
A skrull whisper powerful enough to wreck a small state couldn't defeat Hulk at his strongest. What the real BB could do in that situation is anyone's guess, but it has nothing to do with what the skrull did. 😂
Originally posted by leonheartmm
not to the extent that they cud harm a hulk who was going toe to toe with sentry. an stop pretending. the whole theme of my post was that blackbolt's whisper cudnt put hulk down with ease, you denied this and were obviously supporting the replicating theme which is different from engineering.
What is wrong with you?
Where have you been for the last 2 pages?
I've been trying to explain to you that they can replicate powers, as seen in "Secret Invasion". It isn't done on sight like Amazo, but through genetic engineering. Hence they get the powers of a few specific heroes.
Not the extent that it could harm a Hulk going toe to toe with Sentry?
World War Hulk was black and blue through the entire arc. His durability is not impressive. It's his healing factor. A punch from the Thing to the face made him bleed profoundly.
Also the Skrull Black Bolt did exactly just that, as he blew World War Hulk away with a whisper.
By the way, Black Bolt has knocked the Hulk out in their encounters with nothing more than an inaudible whisper.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
no i did not, i denied that SKRULLS cud replicate powers, i didnt deny that they cud ENGINEER powers, im as aware of super skrull's origins as you, probably more so.yes u did, just not in so many words. otherwise you wudnt have been so surprised when i said that blackbolt cant really defeat an enraged hulk. once again your ignorant and sidestepping while im not.
pick one, either skrulls can replicate black bolt's power enough to harm hulk in world war hulk or they can NOT. you cant keep going between both when either is convenient.
I don't care if this statement was directed at "Quanchi122". I'm still responding to it.
Have you not been reading you're own posts?
You were clearly denying the fact that Skrulls, could replicate powers. Even when I tried to explain to you that it was done through genetic engineering. You dug yourself a hole.
Black Bolt cannot defeat an enraged Hulk?
😆
Did you miss all the times his knocked him out?
He put him down at least 4 times while the Hulk has not put down Black Bolt once.
i denied that they cud make a skrull with power LEVEL of BB and i maintain that, stop lying.
and you just contradicted yourself four times there.
AGAIN, either they CAN replicate the power of blackbolt fully{which is the only way the character in question cud have blasted world war hulk away with a mere whisper} and my argument of hulk being subdued by a mere whisper from blackbolt being untrue REMAINS.
or i was wrong initially to begin with by trying to guage blackbolt's power, and infact the skrulls can NOT replicate the full power of blackbolt{which wud be necessary for the feat in question}.
pick one quan, and stop faltering over each succesive statement you make.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
what you fail to realise is that im not diagreeing with that, i was pointing out that quan was wrong about REPLICATING, which he was and which is different from angineering into a being at birth.
So it was someone else, who logged into you're account and was posting for the last 2 pages?
Originally posted by leonheartmm
and no, they can not take on herald level powers, otherwise, they wud have done so already and not have to bow down to the kree or the annihlation wave or had much problem taking over earth for that matter. point in case, it is still inconsistant to think that any skrull can replicate the powers of blackbolt to the extent that he can harm the hulk from world war hulk. no1 but the real blackbolt cud do that and the retcon remains inconcistant.
You did not read "Secret Invasion" at all, did you?
Just stop.
It does not take someone to be Herald level to hurt Hulk. Far from it. The likes of She-Hulk, The Thing and other characters did it. One does not have to be a power house, to hurt Hulk, even his World War Hulk incarnation.
The Skrulls are clearly able to engineer Herald level characters. Christ, did you miss the part where they created a Super Skrull, that beat the crap out of Beta Ray Bill, who is clearly a high end Herald level power house, and the Super Skrull who impersonated Black Bolt was taking on the entire Illuminati when he revealed his true form.
It's only inconsistent for you. That Super Skrull was extremely powerful. The fact that it harmed the Hulk is not anything surprising.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
What is wrong with you?Where have you been for the last 2 pages?
I've been trying to explain to you that they can replicate powers, as seen in "Secret Invasion". It isn't done on sight like Amazo, but through genetic engineering. Hence they get the powers of a few specific heroes.
Not the extent that it could harm a Hulk going toe to toe with Sentry?
World War Hulk was black and blue through the entire arc. His durability is not impressive. It's his healing factor. A punch from the Thing to the face made him bleed profoundly.
Also the Skrull Black Bolt did exactly just that, as he blew World War Hulk away with a whisper.
By the way, Black Bolt has knocked the Hulk out in their encounters with nothing more than an inaudible whisper.
I don't care if this statement was directed at "Quanchi122". I'm still responding to it.
Have you not been reading you're own posts?
You were clearly denying the fact that Skrulls, could replicate powers. Even when I tried to explain to you that it was done through genetic engineering. You dug yourself a hole.
Black Bolt cannot defeat an enraged Hulk?
😆
Did you miss all the times his knocked him out?
He put him down at least 4 times while the Hulk has not put down Black Bolt once.
i think the entire problem here is that you have been replying to posts not directed at you. if you hadnt done so, you wud have seen that quan actually MEANT that they cud replicate powers on a whim at their peak levels while at the same time maintaining that the feats were not compareable since black bolt has greater power.
in other words, your helping quan create a strawman without realising and beating it endless.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
i denied that they cud make a skrull with power LEVEL of BB and i maintain that, stop lying.and you just contradicted yourself four times there.
AGAIN, either they CAN replicate the power of blackbolt fully{which is the only way the character in question cud have blasted world war hulk away with a mere whisper} and my argument of hulk being subdued by a mere whisper from blackbolt being untrue REMAINS.
or i was wrong initially to begin with by trying to guage blackbolt's power, and infact the skrulls can NOT replicate the full power of blackbolt{which wud be necessary for the feat in question}.
pick one quan, and stop faltering over each succesive statement you make.
facepalm
I am not lying. All you have to do, is go back and read you're own posts.
I did not contradict myself, you just don't get something that is extremely simple.
First you argue, that the Black Bolt from World War Hulk is not a Skrull, but at least now you understand how silly you looked and are calling it inconsistent retconning. Still dumb but not as bad.
I will explain to you this again.
The Skrull's individual powers were not as powerful, as the original power sets, but he made this up with his multiple powers.
The Skrull, does not have to have the Full Power of Black Bolt to blow World War Hulk away. He clearly did not have the Full Power of Black Bolt, as the real Black Bolt put Hulk down cold every time with a single whisper, while World War Hulk, was only thrown back, and was able to get back up from Black Bolt's voice and apparently survived his scream. This already indicates, that the Skrull is no where near the real Black Bolt's power.
What exactly do you not understand?
The Super Skrull, was clearly not as powerful as the original Black Bolt, but he doesn't have to be, to harm World War Hulk. She-Hulk with a single punch can turn his nose into jello and make him bleed profoundly for 3 pages.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
i think the entire problem here is that you have been replying to posts not directed at you. if you hadnt done so, you wud have seen that quan actually MEANT that they cud replicate powers on a whim at their peak levels while at the same time maintaining that the feats were not compareable since black bolt has greater power.in other words, your helping quan create a strawman without realising and beating it endless.
I don't recall Quan saying anything, of the sort.
That doesn't even make sense.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
facepalmI am not lying. All you have to do, is go back and read you're own posts.
I did not contradict myself, you just don't get something that is extremely simple.
First you argue, that the Black Bolt from World War Hulk is not a Skrull, but at least now you understand how silly you looked and are calling it inconsistent retconning. Still dumb but not as bad.
I will explain to you this again.
The Skrull's individual powers were not as powerful, as the original power sets, but he made this up with his multiple powers.
The Skrull, does not have to have the Full Power of Black Bolt to blow World War Hulk away. He clearly did not have the Full Power of Black Bolt, as the real Black Bolt put Hulk down cold every time with a single whisper, while World War Hulk, was only thrown back, and was able to get back up from Black Bolt's voice and apparently survived his scream. This already indicates, that the Skrull is no where near the real Black Bolt's power.
What exactly do you not understand?
The Super Skrull, was clearly not as powerful as the original Black Bolt, but he doesn't have to be, to harm World War Hulk. She-Hulk with a single punch can turn his nose into jello and make him bleed profoundly for 3 pages.
i think the only problem here is that you do not understand that the post in question was directed at quan and yet again, you are beating a strawman. that has been the problem all ALONG.
