No it would not. It do not damage aside from damage/destroy his eye.......if you think that would KO wolverine you really have no right to be in this debate. Logan had his eye eaten, ripped out, slashed in haft.....he was completely fine.
The force of an explosion what starts in his eye would scramble his brains for enough time to count as a KO. The same way WWH scrambled his brains with blunt force trauma. I'm not argueing an arrow in his eye KO's him. That would be retarded, as Logan has taken way more punishment than that.
As for the black box thing, when was that written out of interest?
As in Agent X series Taskmaster was using Wolverine's style to 'train' Alex. And by train I mean use him as a punching/stabbing bag.
Originally posted by AlmightyKfish
The force of an explosion what starts in his eye would scramble his brains for enough time to count as a KO. The same way WWH scrambled his brains with blunt force trauma. I'm not argueing an arrow in his eye KO's him. That would be retarded, as Logan has taken way more punishment than that.As for the black box thing, when was that written out of interest?
As in Agent X series Taskmaster was using Wolverine's style to 'train' Alex. And by train I mean use him as a punching/stabbing bag.
........It took Hulk 7 shots........one punch from Hulk>>>any explosion tasky has.
Your own example goes against your arguement.......
forgett some time in the late 90's early 2000's
He used some moves of wolverine, he did not display knowldge of his entire style. You are givng taskmaster way to much credit to believe he going to prodict an opponent who consider to be one of the most unpredictable
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
It really, really doesn't have to be always stated on panel whether or not Logan goes berserk.
Yeah it does because often if its not stated his normal rage looks exactly like a beserker rage.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
He couldn't KO/kill Logan, so the only way to eliminate the threat was the stone stare. Otherwise Wolverine would just patch up and teleport after him...
LOL he koed him earlier on in the arc and earlier he pummeled Logan with a plank of wood.
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Yeah it does because often if its not stated his normal rage looks exactly like a beserker rage.LOL he koed him earlier on in the arc and earlier he pummeled Logan with a plank of wood.
Okay, let's leave that rage part, it can always be explained that Gorgon suffered from his injuries.
1. Logan pwned a few dozen of zombie-ninjas before that. He was injured. Shurikens were sticking out of his body. Oh and Gorgon studied him, wanted him to tire out a little and catch him unawares.
2. Methane must've affected his senses and overall performance.
3. Danger passed and his adrenalin lv went down.
That plank of wood didn't KO him, though.
Thing is, Gorgon was too close and detected that "finish him" thought... he didn't want to risk so using the stone stare was kinda necessary. What else could he do? If he kept pummeling Logan like that, he'd break his hands.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTWgorgon could've killed logan way earlier and with ease if he used his stone stare
1. Logan pwned a few dozen of zombie-ninjas before that. He was injured. Shurikens were sticking out of his body. Oh and Gorgon studied him, wanted him to tire out a little and catch him unawares.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Okay, let's leave that rage part, it can always be explained that Gorgon suffered from his injuries.1. Logan pwned a few dozen of zombie-ninjas before that. He was injured. Shurikens were sticking out of his body. Oh and Gorgon studied him, wanted him to tire out a little and catch him unawares.
2. Methane must've affected his senses and overall performance.
3. Danger passed and his adrenalin lv went down.
Gorgon said let him tire out a little so he wasnt worn out from the fight. He had just finished the fight from what I can remember so I dont think his adrenaline would have gone straight down. He also wasnt able sto step up his HF
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
That plank of wood didn't KO him, though.
No it didnt but im pretty sure if he did he would have been Koed.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Thing is, Gorgon was too close and detected that "finish him" thought... he didn't want to risk so using the stone stare was kinda necessary. What else could he do? If he kept pummeling Logan like that, he'd break his hands.
It was the easiest option.
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Gorgon said let him tire out a little so he wasnt worn out from the fight. He had just finished the fight from what I can remember so I dont think his adrenaline would have gone straight down. He also wasnt able sto step up his HF
Anyway, it is irrelevant. Sneak attack is a sneak attack.
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
No it didnt but im pretty sure if he did he would have been Koed.
Did what? You think he'd leave Logan and go search for some club? lol
Originally posted by Phantom ZoneIt was the easiest option.
Please tell me about other options. Warpath is much stronger than Gorgon and he's almost broken his hand on Wolverine's jaw. Narrator even stated it was a miracle.
Wolverine's HF works faster when it needs to. By that point it was ridiculously hard to KO him, as you must've noticed.
Leaning over and pulling the sword out of the ground would be extremely stupid, considering Logan thought about "snikting" him in the head.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Anyway, it is irrelevant. Sneak attack is a sneak attack.
No its not. His adrenaline couldnt have gone down because the fight had just ended. Also he couldnt amp his HF up after he got hit.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Did what? You think he'd leave Logan and go search for some club? lol
Come again?
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Please tell me about other options. Warpath is much stronger than Gorgon and he's almost broken his hand on Wolverine's jaw. Narrator even stated it was a miracle.Wolverine's HF works faster when it needs to. By that point it was ridiculously hard to KO him, as you must've noticed.
Leaning over and pulling the sword out of the ground would be extremely stupid, considering Logan thought about "snikting" him in the head.
Warpath is a terrible comparison. Warpath isnt a martial art expert who can beat the crap out of Elektra and Wolverine at the same time after having a house collapse on him from a missle launcher.
Even in that fight in the hospital Gorgon stabbed him through the chest and Wolverine couldnt stop himself from being thrown. Wolverine even stated he couldnt breath. Gorgon could have Koed him but it would have taken longer. Gorgon doesnt use brute strength he uses skill.
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
No its not. His adrenaline couldnt have gone down because the fight had just ended. Also he couldnt amp his HF up after he got hit.
There was a lot of methane. There were injuries. And a sneak attack.
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Come again?
Didn't understand that part of your previous post:
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
No it didnt but im pretty sure if he did he would have been Koed.
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Warpath is a terrible comparison. Warpath isnt a martial art expert who can beat the crap out of Elektra and Wolverine at the same time after having a house collapse on him from a missle launcher.Even in that fight in the hospital Gorgon stabbed him through the chest and Wolverine couldnt stop himself from being thrown. Wolverine even stated he couldnt breath. Gorgon could have Koed him but it would have taken longer. Gorgon doesnt use brute strength he uses skill.
Warpath being a terrible comparison? That guy has a high level durability and his strength far exceeds Class 2. Like it or not, Gorgon's hands would break. You can't punch adamantium all day.
Shishido got too damn close to Logan. He was at "snikt" range. Then we see Wolverine's thought "finish him"... and suddenly Tomi took off the sunglasses when Logan popped his claws.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
There was a lot of methane. There were injuries. And a sneak attack.
and im telling you that it amounted to not much because Gorgon said let him tire a little, then he attacked. Which means Wolverine was only tired a little
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Didn't understand that part of your previous post:What do you mean, "it didn't but if he did"?
The point is that if it takes only two swipes from that plank of wood to drop him if he had kept on hitting him he would have been Koed. Technically its a TKO because he was helpless which is why he got a sword through the throat.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Warpath being a terrible comparison? That guy has a high level durability and his strength far exceeds Class 2. Like it or not, Gorgon's hands would break. You can't punch adamantium all day.
LOL he doesnt have to use brute force hes a martial art expert and as I previoulsy stated he made Wolverine helpless with a sword strike.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Shishido got too damn close to Logan. He was at "snikt" range. Then we see Wolverine's thought "finish him"... and suddenly Tomi took off the sunglasses when Logan popped his claws.
Again he did that to make his job easier he was kicking his arse prior to that, hell he kicked both Wolverine and Elektras arses.
Actually he may have very well been Koed or at least TKOed ie not unconsicous but couldnt get up...
He hits him over the head, then we see him killing SHIELD agents, the next time we see Wolverine he was picking himself off the floor rubbing his head and Gorgon even had time to speak a little before impaling him.
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/9397/gorgonvswolverineelektr.jpg
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/9397/gorgonvswolverineelektr.jpg
edit: Wolverine was TKOed but not unconscious, but clearly if he can do that hes likely capable of Koing him.
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
and im telling you that it amounted to not much because Gorgon said let him tire a little, then he attacked. Which means Wolverine was only tired a little
"Let them tire him out a little" - he was generally speaking, that doesn't mean Wolverine was at, let's say, 90%. It was clear that he wanted Wolverine vulnerable and defenseless. Did you count all those shurikens and blades sticking out of him?
By the way, how many times this phrase is used and then we see the main protagonist greedily catching breath, bruised and covered in blood?
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
The point is that if it takes only two swipes from that plank of wood to drop him if he had kept on hitting him he would have been Koed.
Actually Wolverine took three hits in a row and pank broke. Tomi was losing the range advantage, so he drew that sword and pinned the X-Man.
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
LOL he doesnt have to use brute force hes a martial art expert and as I previoulsy stated he made Wolverine helpless with a sword strike.
Yet all he had in mind was pummeling, pummeling and pummeling. Sure, those blows were vastly more powerful than average class 2 blows, ain't denying that. But I guess he stopped 'cause his knuckles had enough.
Sword was in the ground. Like I said, leaning over and pulling it out would be a death sentence.
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Again he did that to make his job easier he was kicking his arse prior to that, hell he kicked both Wolverine and Elektras arses.
Make his job easier? He knew regular attacks wouldn't kill him. And all his attempts at KO/incapacitation were futile - Logan's HF heals faster when it needs to. That wasn't pre-FA Wolverine who could be knocked out by nerve strikes with relative ease.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
"Let them tire him out a little" - he was generally speaking, that doesn't mean Wolverine was at, let's say, 90%. It was clear that he wanted Wolverine vulnerable and defenseless. Did you count all those shurikens and blades sticking out of him?
LOL that sort of damage is nothing to Wolverine, unless its blades weilded by a true master.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
By the way, how many times this phrase is used and then we see the main protagonist greedily catching breath, bruised and covered in blood?
You know what you had better give me examples.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTWActually Wolverine took three hits in a row and pank broke.
Ok it was three, the plank did not break.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTWTomi was losing the range advantage, so he drew that sword and pinned the X-Man
Im sorry thats complete nonsense, I posted the scans so you can have a look.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTWYet all he had in mind was pummeling, pummeling and pummeling. Sure, those blows were vastly more powerful than average class 2 blows, ain't denying that. But I guess he stopped 'cause his knuckles had enough.
Man could you please stop making baseless assumptions.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTWSword was in the ground. Like I said, leaning over and pulling it out would be a death sentence.
Not sure what you're refering to.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTWMake his job easier? He knew regular attacks wouldn't kill him. And all his attempts at KO/incapacitation were futile - Logan's HF heals faster when it needs to. That wasn't pre-FA Wolverine who could be knocked out by nerve strikes with relative ease.
LOL he TKOed him earlier Wolverine was on the ground for 5 panels, hell even the SHIELD aganets had time to have a chat before Gorgon attacked him again.
Again he made Wolverine helpless with a sword strike through the lungs. He can incapicate him but its harder.
