Sun dipped Superman vs Rune King Thor

Originally posted by h1a8
No. He is only above his average. RKT can't achieve Odin's best feats without proof. Character's don't get other characters best feats. This is a mod ruling. A more powerful character is only above a weaker character's average. For example, a high end Superman can lift weights from 50 Earth weights to infinite weight. Yet HP Doomsday is physically more powerful than him by portrayal and can't do any of that. I doubt HP DD can bust a planet with a single punch. Classic Drax has busted a planet, yet Marvell was shown to best him in h2h and match him in energy blasting. Does this mean that Marvell gets Drax's feat of busting a planet although he was portrayed to be as powerful or more powerful than Drax?

Except that proof has been given, you just chose to ignore it.

Originally posted by Stoic
Except that proof has been given, you just chose to ignore it.

Originally posted by h1a8
Proof of what? That RKT is above Odin's average?

That he is above Odin period. RK Thor was written to be well above Odin even at his best. He doesn't need feats when context states that he is. Nothing to argue about, and no way of getting around it.

Where do you get this 50 earth weight crap from anyway?

Originally posted by h1a8
No. He is only above his average. RKT can't achieve Odin's best feats without proof. Character's don't get other characters best feats. This is a mod ruling. A more powerful character is only above a weaker character's average. For example, a high end Superman can lift weights from 50 Earth weights to infinite weight. Yet HP Doomsday is physically more powerful than him by portrayal and can't do any of that. I doubt HP DD can bust a planet with a single punch. Classic Drax has busted a planet, yet Marvell was shown to best him in h2h and match him in energy blasting. Does this mean that Marvell gets Drax's feat of busting a planet although he was portrayed to be as powerful or more powerful than Drax?
Thor has withstood attacks from Celestials while the 2000ft Destroyer was slagged. We all know that Destroyer is more powerful than Thor but it doesn't get to have Thor's feat. Otherwise it wouldn't got slagged.

Originally posted by Mindset
He's above Odin in all regards.

So your are trolling? Are you claiming that RKT gets Odin's best feats when I told you he doesn't per mod ruling? We can only say that RKT can achieve what an average Odin can achieve plus any other feats RKT has shown. This means he is more powerful than an average Odin. He cannot duplicate Odin's best feats just because a comic stating he's more powerful than Odin due to the ruling. Otherwise, Marvell can bust a planet with a single blow and rip out the core of a star, Destroyer can tank Celestial attacks, etc.

Originally posted by Genii96
Where do you get this 50 earth weight crap from anyway?

Superman vs. Mageddon
Superman holding black hole
Superman exerting at least 50 Earth weights of force when him and Hal moved the Earth against Starbreaker.
Superman lifting infinite weight.
etc.

Originally posted by Stoic
That he is above Odin period. RK Thor was written to be well above Odin even at his best. He doesn't need feats when context states that he is. Nothing to argue about, and no way of getting around it.

Originally posted by h1a8
So your are trolling? Are you claiming that RKT gets Odin's best feats when I told you he doesn't per mod ruling? We can only say that RKT can achieve what an average Odin can achieve plus any other feats RKT has shown. This means he is more powerful than an average Odin. He cannot duplicate Odin's best feats just because a comic stating he's more powerful than Odin due to the ruling. Otherwise, Marvell can bust a planet with a single blow and rip out the core of a star, Destroyer can tank Celestial attacks, etc.

Not the same thing at all. Should we actually get a Mod ruling, or should we spare them and get 3-4 rulings from unbiased posters on this? I'd ask Darksaint, Leo, Galan, and One Angry Scott. The context of the story took every feat of Odin's into consideration, and still stated that RK Thor was above him vs RK Thor was only more powerful than an average Odin, but an all out Odin is more powerful than RK Thor. This is what needs to be decided. Should we do that?

Originally posted by Stoic
Not the same thing at all. Should we actually get a Mod ruling, or should we spare them and get 3-4 rulings from unbiased posters on this? I'd ask Darksaint, Leo, Galan, and One Angry Scott. The context of the story took every feat of Odin's into consideration, and still stated that RK Thor was above him vs RK Thor was only more powerful than an average Odin, but an all out Odin is more powerful than RK Thor. This is what needs to be decided. Should we do that?

Newjak can you give a ruling on this?

Originally posted by Stoic
Newjak can you give a ruling on this?

I just proved why the ruling was put into effect. It prevents stuff like Destroyer tanking Celestial attacks (when it blatantly was shown not to), or Mar-vell busting a planet in one punch when he blatantly can't.

Originally posted by h1a8
There was a mod ruling in a Hulk thread. Pr stated that characters don't get other characters feats (especially their best feats). WWH doesn't get Savage Hulks best feats although he is more powerful.

No one is asking for RK Thor getting Odin's feats. There was solid context from different times that make statements that RK Thor was more powerful than Odin. There is clearly a difference, and no matter what kind of mental gymnastics that you perform, there is no getting past context. This is not remotely the same thing.

Originally posted by h1a8
So your are trolling? Are you claiming that RKT gets Odin's best feats when I told you he doesn't per mod ruling? We can only say that RKT can achieve what an average Odin can achieve plus any other feats RKT has shown. This means he is more powerful than an average Odin. He cannot duplicate Odin's best feats just because a comic stating he's more powerful than Odin due to the ruling. Otherwise, Marvell can bust a planet with a single blow and rip out the core of a star, Destroyer can tank Celestial attacks, etc.

RKT > Odin, your opinion on this fact is of no consequence.

So if a comic explicitly says that Destroyer is more powerful than Thor then Destroyer gets all of thor's feats? Even the one where he tanked Celestials attacks? If so then this would contradict that Destroyer was slagged by Celestials.

Originally posted by Mindset
There has been no such mod ruling.

RKT > Odin, your opinion on this fact is of no consequence.

In the Hulk thread. Pr said that characters don't get other characters feats. Carver was trying to give WWH all of Savage Hulk's best feats. If this is not a ruling then I don't know what is.

Originally posted by h1a8
So if a comic explicitly says that Destroyer is more powerful than Thor then Destroyer gets all of thor's feats? Even the one where he tanked Celestials attacks? If so then this would contradict that Destroyer was slagged by Celestials.

In this case we never saw Odin fight RK Thor, but instead we read that RK Thor is more powerful than Odin. In this case context is what we go with. PIS happens in comics all of the time. hor at regular levels was able to hurt the Chaos King. Should we believe that he was more powerful than Odin based on this one showing? Of course not. Why? Because we know that Odin is more powerful than a regular Thor. You're being extremely obtuse at this point. For you to even continue arguing in this manner baffles me, because I'd be embarrassed to the point of conceding.

Originally posted by h1a8
In the Hulk thread. Pr said that characters don't get other characters feats. Carver was trying to give WWH all of Savage Hulk's best feats. If this is not a ruling then I don't know what is.

That is not remotely the same thing.

Originally posted by h1a8
In the Hulk thread. Pr said that characters don't get other characters feats. Carver was trying to give WWH all of Savage Hulk's best feats. If this is not a ruling then I don't know what is.

He has been given his own feat of being superior to Odin.

Originally posted by Stoic
In this case we never saw Odin fight RK Thor, but instead we read that RK Thor is more powerful than Odin. In this case context is what we go with. PIS happens in comics all of the time. hor at regular levels was able to hurt the Chaos King. Should we believe that he was more powerful than Odin based on this one showing? Of course not. Why? Because we know that Odin is more powerful than a regular Thor. You're being extremely obtuse at this point. For you to even continue arguing in this manner baffles me, because I'd be embarrassed to the point of conceding.

It was shown Marvell to be Drax's better in a comic. Does this mean that Marvell can bust planets with a single blow or rip a star's core out?

In WWH, the comic explicitly said a billion times that WWH was more powerful than he has ever been. Yet Savage Hulk has done things far above anything WWH has done.

Even if RKT gets Odin's best feats then he still loses in one blow. Why? Because Odin never showed the durability necessary to tank a blow from a character of this type of strength. This Superman physically overpowered thousands of galaxies worth of power. So the point is really moot.

Originally posted by Mindset
RKT hasn't been given Odin's feats.

He has been given his own feat of being superior to Odin.

With that I agree. Just as long as no one gives him Odin's best feats.