Originally posted by Starscream MDaken is over 60 years old, so no - Team claw has the experience. X-23 may have less experience than Elektra or DD, but I dare say that comparitively fighting and training has taken up a larger part of her life than theirs. Fighting/killing is more ingrained in her and more natural than it is for Team ninja.
team 2 is more skilled and experienced though
As neither Daken or X-23 has fought either no reliable argument can be made for who is more skilled. Daken likely has more training (thus has more skilleds) than Team ninja so skill goes to team claw.
Originally posted by Starscream MProof? They've never fought, so how would you come to such a conclusion. Both are skilled enough to be comparable to Wolverine, who is vastly superior to Elektra or DD in every possible way.
Elektra is superior to daken or x-23 though,
Originally posted by The PictI dont see how this would be anything other than a walk in the park for Team Claw. The superhuman factor makes the outcome blatantly obvious.
I reckon team 1 for the (slim?) majority. Tough call. I would say their superhuman attributes give them the edge.
Originally posted by The PictI'm sure X was only trained to combat defenseless targets 🙄
Yeah but training and experience are two very different things. Especially for Laura here. She was trained to take out regular soldier or assassinate defenceless targets, not come up against Superheroes like DD.
And the fact is DD and Elektra are 2 essentially normal combatants. Team Claw? Not exactly.
Originally posted by The Pict??? Such as? Daken can hold his own against arguably the most skilled and experienced fighter in the Marvel U.
And DD and Elektra are adept at holding their own against foes on or above Daken's level of skill and experience.
Originally posted by vansonbeeYeah you have to repeatedly kill them each like 6 times to get them to stay down for longer than 5 seconds.
6/10 Team 2 wins , you don't have to kill to win.
Originally posted by vansonbeeWolverine was fighting brainwashing at the time and Elektra sneak attacked him while he was fighting other people. Not applicable.
Elektra doesn't have to kill anyone from Team 1 to win. She has disable Wolverine before by placing her dagger between his joints disabling movement.
Originally posted by vansonbeeDD has the top speed of....... a human, therefor both X-23 and Daken with speed ENHANCED as a byproduct of their mutant abilities are faster than DD. As far as senses go, they are likely equal or close to it. Wolverine's senses are equivalent to DD's with DD having slightly better hearing and Wolverine having a slightly better sense of smell. Daken's sensory disruption abilities also spell DOOM for DD.
Daredevil speed and senses are superior to Team 1 and would avoid fatal injuries.
As for X-23 being trained to fight Wolverine, I have seen that mentioned somewhere. Considering that she was given many of the same tests as Logan (BEAR) I'd say it's pretty obvious it's a distinct possibility. Wasn't she also seen training to fight Wolverine in a simulator?
Originally posted by Survivor19
No, he can't.
Wolverine never attacked him, nor went all out on him.Daredevil and Electra, from the other hand, DID hold his own against Logan.
DD got put in a full nelson in 5 pannels in one fight and in the other he held his own and barly survived vs a mind control Logan who was fighting it.
Elektra attack Logan once he was covered with 20 soldier on him.
Logan did fight Daken before. Niether one of people you brought up held there own better then taken or vs a more capable wolverine like your impling
Originally posted by Survivor19
I suggest we'll just flip through their encounters.I'll begin from one from Original Sin. Logan was trying to not to fight at all, and only recieve e beating. No feat for Daken.
In the first arc Daken was in he and Logan fought and he actaully got the better of Logan.
still trying to ponder were you came to the conclusion that DD and Elektra held Logan off and that what they did was more superior to Daken.
I also notice you have yet to comment on what I said about the encounters.
Checked their fight, turns out you ARE right about their first actual fight. Daken did got better of Logan, though his old man wasn't exactly going all out on him.
Hell, there was Wolverine/X-23 "first encounter" (not the one in Uncanny), where she got better of Logan, bleeding him out.
Well, let's say you convinced me that Team 1 showings against Logan are superior to Team 2' ones.
Originally posted by Survivor19
Checked their fight, turns out you ARE right about their first actual fight. Daken did got better of Logan, though his old man wasn't exactly going all out on him.Hell, there was Wolverine/X-23 "first encounter" (not the one in Uncanny), where she got better of Logan, bleeding him out.
Well, let's say you convinced me that Team 1 showings against Logan are superior to Team 2' ones.
Logan was letting his self get stabbed over and over again by X-23 I would not put much faith in the fight.
Originally posted by riceroost
Daken is over 60 years old, so no - Team claw has the experience. X-23 may have less experience than Elektra or DD, but I dare say that comparitively fighting and training has taken up a larger part of her life than theirs. Fighting/killing is more ingrained in her and more natural than it is for Team ninja.As neither Daken or X-23 has fought either no reliable argument can be made for who is more skilled. Daken likely has more training (thus has more skilleds) than Team ninja so skill goes to team claw.
Proof? They've never fought, so how would you come to such a conclusion. Both are skilled enough to be comparable to Wolverine, who is vastly superior to Elektra or DD in every possible way.
I dont see how this would be anything other than a walk in the park for Team Claw. The superhuman factor makes the outcome blatantly obvious.
I'm sure X was only trained to combat defenseless targets 🙄And the fact is DD and Elektra are 2 essentially normal combatants. Team Claw? Not exactly.
??? Such as? Daken can hold his own against arguably the most skilled and experienced fighter in the Marvel U.
Yeah you have to repeatedly kill them each like 6 times to get them to stay down for longer than 5 seconds.
Wolverine was fighting brainwashing at the time and Elektra sneak attacked him while he was fighting other people. Not applicable.
DD has the top speed of....... a human, therefor both X-23 and Daken with speed ENHANCED as a byproduct of their mutant abilities are faster than DD. As far as senses go, they are likely equal or close to it. Wolverine's senses are equivalent to DD's with DD having slightly better hearing and Wolverine having a slightly better sense of smell. Daken's sensory disruption abilities also spell DOOM for DD.As for X-23 being trained to fight Wolverine, I have seen that mentioned somewhere. Considering that she was given many of the same tests as Logan (BEAR) I'd say it's pretty obvious it's a distinct possibility. Wasn't she also seen training to fight Wolverine in a simulator?
😕 You realise I am actually in favourof team 1 winning? I was just pointing out that DD and Elektra have the skill and experience to hold their own for a bit.
Well, from the time he was born(or more importantly, cut from his mothers stomach), Romulus was training him, and he was also extensively trained Cyber. I think his training is of an extremely high quality, don't you? Cyber also said Daken was his best student, and if it weren't for his adamantium skin, Daken could have killed him.
Originally posted by KingD19
Well, from the time he was born(or more importantly, cut from his mothers stomach), Romulus was training him, and he was also extensively trained Cyber. I think his training is of an extremely high quality, don't you? Cyber also said Daken was his best student, and if it weren't for his adamantium skin, Daken could have killed him.
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