Daken and X-23 vs Elektra and Daredevil

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Originally posted by Warrior18
*wipes feverishly sweaty brow* Ok cool. Thought you meant something else..............

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Originally posted by KingD19
The thing is, Elektra can't kill them. ^_^

Plus, dude is overlooking Daken's pheromones. He seems to teleport, and he is invisble to your sense, so even DD wouldn't be able to predict his attacks.

elektra's telepathy can help her counteract his tricks

and DD can rely on his other senses to predict where Daken is

Originally posted by KingD19
The thing is, Elektra can't kill them. ^_^

Plus, dude is overlooking Daken's pheromones. He seems to teleport, and he is invisble to your sense, so even DD wouldn't be able to predict his attacks.

She can still KO/incapacitate them.

He can make someone laugh without a reason, cause a panic attack or a false sense of security and I believe he can do more.

Originally posted by Starscream M
and DD can rely on his other senses to predict where Daken is

Like Logan did? Characters with enhanced senses aren't immune to pheromones. IMO he would be fooled like everyone else.

When I say he blocks your senses, I mean all of them. And he can do a whole lot more.

And a ko could work.

Originally posted by Starscream M
weren't you referring to street levelers? I thought spiderman vs cap was an apt refutation of your point.
I actually meant talented MA's.

Daken being as old as he is does give him experience in combat, however using that experience in fights vs high tier opponents is another thing. That alone doesnt put him over to beat DD nor Elektra imo. Same of X23. True they have no problem killing, but neither does Elektra and Matt has dealt with highly dangerous opponents before.

As far as Dakens Phermones, DD may possibly be immune to it. It wouldnt surprise me at all if he were.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Daken being as old as he is does give him experience in combat, however using that experience in fights vs high tier opponents is another thing. That alone doesnt put him over to beat DD nor Elektra imo. Same of X23. True they have no problem killing, but neither does Elektra and Matt has dealt with highly dangerous opponents before.

As far as Dakens Phermones, DD may possibly be immune to it. It wouldnt surprise me at all if he were.

Yeah. Daredevil is blind, so pheremones shouldn't logically affect him.

Right?

Right?

RIGHT???!!!!

*explodes*

Pheremones effect your nose more than anything. As good as DD's nose is, they will affect him.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Yeah. Daredevil is blind, so pheremones shouldn't logically affect him.

Right?

Right?

RIGHT???!!!!

*explodes*

Doesnt work like that. Its nasally or orally inhaled.

Originally posted by KingD19
Pheremones effect your nose more than anything. As good as DD's nose is, they will affect him.

Possibly not. He was immune to Scarecrows fear gas. After being dosed with the new mr. fears new phermone fear gas, DD was in such a rage, it had no effect on him whatsoever. Mr. Fears new gas works similar to Dakens.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Doesnt work like that. Its nasally or orally inhaled.

Irony.....

I'm pretty sure Elektra can take down 23 on her own. However, neither her or Daredevil have anything to use against Daken's pheromones. He's got a level of telepathic resistance and I don't see Elektra getting anywhere with her low level mind scrambling. Daredevil's natural "handicap" wont prevent Daken from altering his emotional state, BTW.

Originally posted by Konton
I'm pretty sure Elektra can take down 23 on her own. However, neither her or Daredevil have anything to use against Daken's pheromones. He's got a level of telepathic resistance and I don't see Elektra getting anywhere with her low level mind scrambling. Daredevil's natural "handicap" wont prevent Daken from altering his emotional state, BTW.
Originally posted by jrodslam
As far as Dakens Phermones, DD may possibly be immune to it. It wouldnt surprise me at all if he were.
Originally posted by jrodslam
He was immune to Scarecrows fear gas. After being dosed with the new mr. fears new phermone fear gas, DD was in such a rage, it had no effect on him whatsoever. Mr. Fears new gas works similar to Dakens.

He wont be immune to it. Logan immune to pritty much any type of gas there is. He was still effected, to think DD not is just wrong

Originally posted by Battlehammer
He wont be immune to it. Logan immune to pritty much any type of gas there is. He was still effected, to think DD not is just wrong

Why not? It just isnt some regular gas. Its a phermone just like Dakens.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Why not? It just isnt some regular gas. Its a phermone just like Dakens.

what are you basing this off of? scare crow incident which isent even cannon?

Logan has shown not to be effected by vastly more things then DD and he was effect as was DP why should DD some one be immune? There no reason for it. unless your trying to say DD has some secret power of immunity.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
what are you basing this off of? scare crow incident which isent even cannon?

Logan has shown not to be effected by vastly more things then DD and he was effect as was DP why should DD some one be immune? There no reason for it. unless your trying to say DD has some secret power of immunity.

Im basing it off the fact that DD has faced ppl with phermones gases similar to daken. Scarecrows gas works just like dakens and mr fears for the fact that its a causes his victims to hallucinate and believe that their phobias are real. Why would you say its not cannon? Scarecrow and mr fear(mainly the older ones) are just about the same when it came to the fear gas. Thats just an example.

Logan has been "vastly" uneffected to more things that DD when it comes to things like hallucinogens and phermones? What types of hallucinogens and phermones have Wolvie resisted that DD couldnt? You make your statement based off what? Mr Fears phermones work exactly like dakens and DD ended up completely resisting it when he was mad. According to you if Wolvie and DP cant resist, DD cant? Maybe DD has more control over his mind and thoughts than the other two. Who knows. But to say DD cant resist it cause Wolvie and DP couldnt, is ridiculous imo.

Originally posted by Warrior18
*wipes feverishly sweaty brow* Ok cool. Thought you meant something else..............
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Gas and pheremones are two different things. Gas is usually just inhaled, or through the skin. If you're around pheremones, you're effected, they touch you, your nose, your eyes, they travel straight to your brain, regardless. Comparing pheremones to gas is like comparing a bb gun to an M-16