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Battlehammer Senior Member

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Yeah he was doesnt mean that he cant get shot by a missle launcher.

If his character is misrepresented through out the arc using an example of him getting hit with a rocket launcher is not accurate to what would happen, since his character was never portrayal accurately to begin with. Also Logan was tracking down Punisher, he was yet un aware of Punisher being 30 feet away from him? He was also unable to hear a rocket launcher being firer from that closes despite the fact he was tracking Punisher is quite inaccurate and yes should not have happen. Yes it does mean he should not have been hit by a rocket launcher unaware and he has shown the ability to dodge rockets as well, which again goes against him being hit with the rocket let lone the fact he was hit unaware when he was tracking Punisher.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Now you're just moaning. Dr Doom has had trouble tracking him down cant see why Wolverine cant.

Doom does not have wolverine prowess in tracking. Nor has doom have his enhance senses or know Punisher scent.

Nor was there any reason given for why he was unable to detect punisher. Just because Punisher was unable to go undetected by doom does, not make it ok for Wolverine abilities and prowess to be completely ignored by the author.

Same author mind you that stated he hates super powered hero's.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
He was beserk?

Why cant a missle launcher burn the flesh off his legs when bullets pierce his skin? Are you going to moan about everything?


That was the reason given by the author for why he attack both spiderman and DD. I also believe he even apologies to them for it. Which was stupid to begin with that he went berserk since he taken far more damage and so forth with out resorting to such tactics.

You completely missed my point. Re read what I said. I said him no being KO from having haft his body turn to a skeleton and being hit into another state by the hulk conflict with him being put down from a jab to the adam apple. If your not even going to read what I said, why bother responding

Phantom Zone Junior Member

Originally posted by jinzin
It has nothing to do with his strength as it does the tensil strength of his muscles. Being a gymnast of olympic level as he is, he necesarily has to have incredible conditioning when it comes to his joints/ligaments.

Being able to swing the 400 lb barbell is a demonstration of this. In order to do that without causing injury you would have to have muscle strength and conditioning that allowed you to counter balance the momentum of that weight. It's practically the same type of feat if not more impressive.

The fact is that Frank jumping on a peak human and dislocating his arm when it goes against his typcial character portrayal is just another dosage of Ennis' bias PIS.

Thats not the same as hanging a much haevier weight on one arm what so difficult to undertsand? Could he hang 1 ton on one arm without dislocating it? No because 1 ton is way above 400lbs. No im not saying they weighed 1ton.

Originally posted by jinzin

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Have you ever even read a Daredevil comic that didn't have Punisher in it?

Look at when Stick trained him. No grapple hook whatsoever.

Lol I was reading DD for 4 years straight. That was ages ago most of his shwoings have him using a grapple hook supporting his own body weight.

Originally posted by jinzin

And even using a grapple hook you have to compensate for whiplash when launching yourself around corners etc etc with it. As he has done so in numerous fights.

LOL I dont think writers thingk about it, in that much detail Ive never read a DD comic where ths liones given him any whiplash. However he obvoulsy uses it because it makes his job easier and he supports his own body weight.

Originally posted by jinzin

Because no amount of "explaining" is going to justify someone who's power is borderline precog to be faked out by toys?

It's not consistent with ANY spiderman showings in the past, and trust me, I know.

He senses danger, there wasn't any... It was PIS.

I'm doing what I usually do in discrediting bad, bias, non-characteristic writing that discards common knowledge about these characters and accediting the characters for their typical portrayal.. while you're ALSO doing what you usually do, supporting Ennis' writing in that arc... BLEH! 😘

As I said it could be a low showing because his SS has been portrayed in that way before.

Battlehammer Senior Member

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Theres still alot that contradict that, so that could be considered to be a low showing

Or they can be examples of PIS. If an entire arc completely misrepresents characters, and then completely ignores there abilities they do not get validated, because of a previous time it has occured. Becuase that previus time could also be PIS, but more importantly that previous instant is not part of an arc in which the characters were misrepresented from start to finish.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Now ypou're just making shit up this is what I mean about complaing about everything. Punisher has gone crazy and killed innocent people before other superheroes find him unpredicatble and they figure that he may actually snap and go completely nuts...sometimes they just dont want to take the risk eg the Cop that frank threatened and The Sentry.

Really what innocents has Frank aka Punisher purposely killed?

jinzin Senior Member

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Thats not the same as hanging a much haevier weight on one arm what so difficult to undertsand? Could he hang 1 ton on one arm without dislocating it? No because 1 ton is way above 400lbs. No im not saying they weighed 1ton.
Then why say it at all.

It's not the same, it's more impressive. Because he was demonstrating not only the ability to compensate for the same amount of wieght roughly, but the momentum of it, and overtake that momentum to shift it's direction.. As I said, insane tensil strength.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Lol I was reading DD for 4 years straight. That was ages ago most of his shwoings have him using a grapple hook supporting his own body weight.
Are you sure. Using his grappling hook to slingshot him around things is fairly common place. And if you read him for 4 straight years than why are you attempting to characterize him as someone who only uses a grappling hook when using his roof to roof acrobatics... 😐

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
LOL I dont think writers thingk about it, in that much detail
We know Ennis doesn't that's for damned sure.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
As I said it could be a low showing because his SS has been portrayed in that way before.
When. 😐