ROTS Obi Wan vs Maul

Originally posted by DUOLC OLLOPA
Gideon, Darth Sexy, Forum Ninja, SW Legend, Advent flamed you in the "presuit Darth Vader vs Darth Vader RoTJ" exactly 7 minutes ago, Kadesh used to do it en mass, and that's not even getting into "The Battle Bar #2" era of flames where I recall Nai being particularly catty.

Gideon and DS don't count- the former is an ass and the latter is incompetent.

Forum ninja was a tool troll.

I don't remember SW legend insulting me at all, and if Advent's post:

^ Yes, because leaving on one's own accord is the same thing as being "driven out".

Whom is Kadesh?

Nai? He's GERMAN GAY. No one cares what he thinks.

What about you? The entire board enjoys bashing/flaming you. Did you stop to think that there's a reason for that? (Not to mention the fact that if I get flamed and it is an indication of intelligence/skill/whatever then your record is far more damning than is mine.)

^Kadesh is Manslayer/Ivalice/Arnold/Wolverine or whatever name he is going by these days

Oh. He bashes everyone and he enjoyed bashing BOOG. I don't think he's a problem.

Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall

According to you Darth Power, Anakin is on par with Mace Windu, and Obi Wan beat Anakin. So unless if Maul > Mace...

Wow thanks for really twisting my veiws. You guys seriously need to stop obsessing over me.. And for the record ObiWan is NOT on par with Anakin. Far from it.

They only fight evenly because they know each others moves inside out. So the above A>B>C is a prime example of how that argument is constantly abused.

Originally posted by DUOLC OLLOPA
No he's not wrong, it's true! Me and Darth Power are one in the same.

Hey look im quoting myself

Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
Darth Power was a sock of...Sexy...and Nebaris...what's next, he's a sock of Nai, Lucien, Rex...and EVERYONE? So everyone that I encounter is really all one person, and I'm talking...to one person? AHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!

HAHA! You lot are mad

Originally posted by xxxpoppunker182
I don't even think it's a tough fight for obi-wan he easily took pout grievous

Yeah Fisto also took out greivous.. but im betting Sidious culdnt take out Maul as quickly as he took Fisto out(and while fighting Mace!)

Originally posted by xxxpoppunker182
and nothing maul does will get passed obi-wans defenses

How about his Teras Kasi, or his deadly kicks..

hell even Ventress knocked Obiwan's saber away from him. Proof that Obiwan is far from impentetrable in terms of his defence.

Originally posted by xxxpoppunker182
obi takes this easily

When has Obwan EVER defeated a Sith Lord easily??!! Thats just not gna happen.

I don't see Obi Wan winning this.

Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
I don't see Obi Wan winning this.

Because...

@Darth Power

If Obi Wan isn't on par with Anakin, then why did he beat Anakin? And why did he train/be the master of Anakin if he's weaker?

Obi Wan wins, albiet w/difficulty (true, it's not gna be easy).

Because Maul was a master of multiple lightsaber forms, and was said to be the deadliest sith warriors in history. Maul also single handily weakened the galaxies most dangerous criminal organization. I can not see Obi Wan doing that.

Originally posted by Red Nemesis
Gideon and DS don't count- the former is an ass and the latter is incompetent.

What about you? The entire board enjoys bashing/flaming you. Did you stop to think that there's a reason for that? (Not to mention the fact that if I get flamed and it is an indication of intelligence/skill/whatever then your record is far more damning than is mine.)

Yes we all make fun of Noobaris but unlike you, he doesn't have to ride someone's nuts all the time.

Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
@Darth Power

If Obi Wan isn't on par with Anakin, then why did he beat Anakin?

did you not watch the movie? he got the high ground. he may be tactically smarter, but hes not as strong or as powerful, as Anakin.(though they might be quite equal in technical skill) They fight evenly because they know each others moves inside out according to both NG and ROTS novel.

Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
And why did he train/be the master of Anakin if he's weaker?

Thats a retarded statement.

Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
Obi Wan wins, albiet w/difficulty (true, it's not gna be easy).

I think if Obiwan won it would be with A LOT of Difficulty.. But no ones provided any sound reasoning why Obiwan would win. So im sticking to Maul because hes physically stronger and a better fighter.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
did you not watch the movie? he got the high ground. he may be tactically smarter, but hes not as strong or as powerful, as Anakin.(though they might be quite equal in technical skill) They fight evenly because they know each others moves inside out according to both NG and ROTS novel.

So intelligence shouldn't factor into the fight?

That's a retarded statement

Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
So intelligence shouldn't factor into the fight?

Well yeah it plays a role, but thats where A>B>C doesnt work.. Obiwan beat Anakin by tactically outsmarting him(at a point when Anakins mental focus was probably at its lowest)..

but the fact is Anakins more powerful and a better swordsman, which is why Obiwan could never be a match for Dooku, not even in his wildest dreams, yet Anakin is more than a match for the Count.

So How does your A>B>C theory work there? Not very well.

Never fear. He'll try to.

Obi Wan was a Jedi Master, Darth Maul was a Sith Padawan. In the TPM any one of the council members could of beaten Maul, and i believe that is the same case in ROTS

Originally posted by Higilo
Obi Wan was a Jedi Master, Darth Maul was a Sith Padawan. In the TPM any one of the council members could of beaten Maul, and i believe that is the same case in ROTS

That's terrible logic. Despite being an apprentice Maul is still considered a sith lord. Qui-gon would have been on the council if he listened to them, which speaks highly about his skills yet Maul killed him and killed Anoon Bondara, who all evidence points to him being the jedi battle master prior to Cin Drallig. By your logic Dooku couldn't best any one the council because he was Sidious's apprentice (same rank as Maul) and never the DLOTS.

Originally posted by Elite Hunter
That's terrible logic. Despite being an apprentice Maul is still considered a sith lord. Qui-gon would have been on the council if he listened to them, which speaks highly about his skills yet Maul killed him and killed Anoon Bondara, who all evidence points to him being the jedi battle master prior to Cin Drallig. By your logic Dooku couldn't best any one the council because he was Sidious's apprentice (same rank as Maul) and never the DLOTS.

Dooku was stronger in the force and was a more experienced warrior, at the age of Maul they might of been on parr. Dooku was a sith padawan and a MASTER jedi

Originally posted by Higilo
Dooku was stronger in the force and was a more experienced warrior, at the age of Maul they might of been on parr. Dooku was a sith padawan and a MASTER jedi

Maul killed two jedi masters, one of which should have been on the council the other was the battle master prior to Cin whose lightsaber skill was described as "second to none" Rank doesn't give Obiwan the victory and it certainly doesn't mean that any council member from TPM-ROTS could beat him simply because they are jedi masters.

I understand that ranks in the sith mean nothing, due to the rule of two, but all i was saying is that Obi Wan is more experienced in ROTS and would defeat Maul legitimately due to his gained intelligence in both the force and with his skills in dueling. Maul was good, but only beat Qui Gon because they were in a confined space, which puts Qui Gon at a disadvantage.