Originally posted by guy222LT doesn't exist in the world of Roma, Merlyn, Exiles, etc. The X-verse in general ignores him in cosmic-type stories in favour of their own characters and it's stupid. The guy has been well established since the 60s as the ultimate judge/jury/executioner of the multiverses - before Captain Britain and his gang of misfits showed up - yet they always usurp his position.
I don't believe LT was mentionedLike I said this morning, I just wish Marvel would use LT more when all these threats happen to the Omniverse
Look at how Exiles ended....Merlyn was causing the Omniverse to collaspe...Where's LT?
I just ignore those stories altogether. Or at least the cosmic elements (in HoM).
Originally posted by King Kandy
No, Thanos had special properties that allowed him to use the full power. Akhenaten and the Celestial Order had the HOTU for Millenia but couldn't use it's full power since it would destroy them.
Thanos was the only nut job to try to jump head long into the source of thoti
On
Panel he resisted dying or whatever and ended up becoming one with the whole thing
And personally, while pis I view stories with Roma involved but not
Of stories where of knows since be is pretty much all knowing, the outcome is favorable... Whereas Roma
Does not know
So of feels he does not have to intervene because the end result will be hat be or maybe tosa wants or maybe they knew nothing would come of it
We have no idea if anyone else ever attempted
To shotgun the beer of power... Maybe everyone else was being dainty and drinking it sipping with thei
But technically
Akhen with thoti< alien beings with thoti< thanos with thoti
He's the only person to display as much power as he did with it...
Others who ha the cosmic cube and if showed similar power to thanos
But only thanos with thoti was near tosa
Level
Originally posted by UtrigitaYes it has been some time 🙂
Hmm if I understand you correct Wanda warped the Omniverse when her Chaos Wave had/was already affecting it? It wasn't first Chaos Wave then the Chaos Wave stops everything a big mess and then Wanda affects the omniverse.
Hmm I see a difference between what LT was about to do and what Wanda did. But that's probably just me
But there was more to crash, like 616 itself,
and the mysterious Ascension. (presumably where God resides)
Originally posted by UtrigitaAlso I was under the impression that based on this scan
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u43/Galan007/chaoswave1.jpg
that is was while the Chaos Wave was in affect that they believed they could stop the Chaos Wave with the Celestial Nullifier.
Wanda still had her power, Chaos Magic through which she created her Chaos Wave,
and really she didn't even purposely make the wave,
the wave was just her power spilling out from 616 across the Omniverse.
Still, again, by the end, Wanda had far more control of her power,
as she was able to reset the entire Omniverse back to normal,
and yet consciously erasing the mutant gene across all realities.
Her power was demonstrated more in 616, with all the incredible coolness she did.
Ok, I don't know enough about Wanda's story to make a full judgment on whether or not she's more powerful than the LT. However, I have read most of the stories that the LT is involved in and it always seems that he is simply above everything and everyone else. He is the ultimate abstract power, among abstract powers (second only to the TOAA, of course).
If we want examples of feats, aside from the few already mentions, how about when he stopped Eternity and, iirc, Adam Warlock with the IG from fighting with a snap of his finger. Now, this could have been a "What If" comic, with someone else wielding the IG at the time, so I'm not sure if it is truly canon. However, the fact that after he snapped his finger, the person wearing the IG said it was impossible that he just stopped him like that. To this, the LT responded something to the extent that he was above all things and even someone wearing the IG couldn't comprehend the full extent of his power. THAT to me puts him above anyone on the team.
As to why the LT doesn't step in to stop universal threats, I believe there could be a number of reasons.
1) He is above these threats. He is so far above them that he doesn't worry about what will happen, as he can always correct the problems, if they don't correct themselves.
2) As someone mentioned above, he may already know the outcome of these events and therefore know that he is not needed.
3) As the ultimate judge of the Omniverse, he might only deal out justice AFTER an event has occurred and is fully irreversible. In other words, he makes his judgment only after the damage has been done and nobody else is able to correct the incident. He is then free to correct, or let stand the damage that has occurred.
4) Perhaps with all his power, he has limits placed on him, either self imposed, or imposed by the TOAA, that prevents him from acting unless there is no other alternative, or no other being capable of fixing the problem at hand.
and finally, the most obvious....
5) It would make for a very boring story if the LT always stepped in and fixed everything before it reached a climactic moment for the Uni/Multi/Omniverse, etc.
To me, I think the LT is above all these "petty" threats to the Multiverse. Therefore, IMHO, I also think the Living Tribunal would win against this team.
