Can we Gene-Splice our way to Superhuman Abilities?

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Can we Gene-Splice our way to Superhuman Abilities?

Powers like Bioshock's might still be in our imaginations.

Turns out that Andrew Ryan was way, way ahead of his time. "Gene therapy is a relatively young field that has shown some promise for the treatment of hereditary diseases," says College of the Holy Cross chemistry professor Dr. Jude Kelly. "The simple idea is to replace a faulty gene with a more functional one." OXM's own "Ask Dr. Gamer" columist, Dr. Frederick Chen, concurs: "We've only recently mapped the human genome, so manipulating it is still a ways off. Superpowers will probably have to wait until after we fix congenital defects, chronic illnesses, and cancer." So wait -- you mean once we knock out Alzheimer's, ALS, and the real nasty stuff, Cyclone Trap plasmids are just a matter of time? Not so fast. "Gene splicing toward superpowers would require replacing normal genes with superpowered ones," explains Dr. Kelley. "You would need to either borrow or create genes that grant superpowers. Real-life genetic mutations usually do more harm than good, so we don't have the raw material we would need for these genes." Give this field of research some time, though, and "it's not too farfetched to think of gene therapy granting everyday people what would seem like superpowers to us today," says Dr. Kelly. "These would be things like immunity to diseases, slower aging, resistance to toxins, things like that." Being poison-proof sounds cool -- but spider-walking on walls and shooting fire from our fingertips isn't on the agenda.

Well it would seem that we won't be having powers in quite a while until all diseases are dealt with.

What are your opinions on this? Would it be awesome to have superpowers? What gene splicing power would you like to have?

Re: Can we Gene-Splice our way to Superhuman Abilities?

Originally posted by Nemesis X
Well it would seem that we won't be having powers in quite a while until all diseases are dealt with.

No we won't be having powers until we know how to build completely unique genes and then splice those into exactly the right place and even then we won't get them our kids will. If we live long enough that we have technology to totally alter the genes of a currently living creature we'd be so advanced that technology based super powers would be much better and easier.

think about it logistically. Do you realize how much food you'd have to consume for half of the most popular superpowers? Wasn't there a study a while back showing that a common super activity such as webslinging burns something like 2,000 calories an hour?

Originally posted by Darth Jello
think about it logistically. Do you realize how much food you'd have to consume for half of the most popular superpowers? Wasn't there a study a while back showing that a common super activity such as webslinging burns something like 2,000 calories an hour?

But what if we could design a much better energy system? No more ATP. I'm unsure of a chemical process that could work for a biological being, though. 🙁 It will take me a while, but I'll think of something.

Originally posted by dadudemon
But what if we could design a much better energy system? No more ATP. I'm unsure of a chemical process that could work for a biological being, though. 🙁 It will take me a while, but I'll think of something.

My ideas in order of decending sanity:

If you made people slightly larger (or just streamlined the organ system a bunch) there would be room for a small reactors of various types in the abdomen.

Skin cells could be made to act as photovoltaic cells (turn light into electricity for the lay people out there) or combustion engines.

Turn cells that are tiny fusion devices, like the Ultimate Human Torch.

Channel energy from another dimension like Cyclops or the Hulk.

Use awesomeness distilled into physical form like in Gurren Lagann.

Maybe its a natural part of evolution, us changing ourselves.

Add a internal hard drive and bio chip so we can remember stuff, stop the dieing mechanism which causes aging. Put little nano repair things in us to heal us etc.

The problem could be the emotional side effects.

No superpowers....think of criminals with powers!! 😐

Originally posted by Kinkin
No superpowers....think of criminals with powers!! 😐

Think of heroes with powers!

Transhumanism for the win?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Think of heroes with powers!

More villians than heroes.

Just not worth the risk.

Unless I can be Wolverine. Then you all better watch out!!

Originally posted by Kinkin
More villians than heroes.

Just not worth the risk.

We'll find the genetic marks for morality and secretly add them to all the enhancements.

Already found; it's in the U.S., the Evangelical Right has it in spades.

Perfect! We'll have thousands of superpowered fundamentalist Christians.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Perfect! We'll have thousands of superpowered fundamentalist Christians.

👆

Originally posted by Nemesis X
What are your opinions on this? Would it be awesome to have superpowers? What gene splicing power would you like to have?

This will require not only a knowledge of which gene / gene set does what, but more importantly, what would be the unforeseen, synergistic consequences of this kind of genetic tampering -- not just in terms of immediate short-term results, but also with regard to long-term consequences.

It may well require quantum computation to figure it all out.

As for what superpower would I pick? What are my choices? Do I have to stick with more realistic ones, eg, superstrength, or can I pick something on the fringe, eg, telekinesis, something which may not even exist or be possible to exist?

I always thought superstrength would be the most universally useful power. On the other hand, if possible, TK would be sweet.

Originally posted by Mindship
This will require not only a knowledge of which gene / gene set does what, but more importantly, what would be the unforeseen, synergistic consequences of this kind of genetic tampering -- not just in terms of immediate short-term results, but also with regard to long-term consequences.

Expand on this. You're implying something...and I would like to explore your imagination on this.

Originally posted by Mindship
It may well require quantum computation to figure it all out.

If we can perfect that, it probably will be required.

Originally posted by Mindship
As for what superpower would I pick? What are my choices? Do I have to stick with more realistic ones, eg, superstrength, or can I pick something on the fringe, eg, telekinesis, something which may not even exist or be possible to exist?

I always thought superstrength would be the most universally useful power. On the other hand, if possible, TK would be sweet.

Mine would be the package. Watch DBZ? It would be like Cell. Having a system that doesn't produce waste products or metabolic byproducts. That means I wouldn't have to breath and eating just a little bit of food would give me great amounts of energy. This is addition to much much stronger connective tissues, much stronger bones, retardedly crisp vision, and a penis that stays hard for 10 hours with a woman's ability to get off 10 times. MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!!!! Improved Hearing would be good and an increase of the sense of smell too.

Originally posted by Mindship
I always thought superstrength would be the most universally useful power. On the other hand, if possible, TK would be sweet.

Superpeed has a lot more uses, IMO, and has at least as much utility in a fight. The vision package (telescoping, microscoping, hyperspectral) is pretty high on my list of awesome powers too.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Expand on this. You're implying something...and I would like to explore your imagination on this.
I'm just saying, it may be more than just knowing which gene does this and which gene does that. The genome is a package deal; I would think that would be the best approach to major genetic engineering.

Where did you think I was headed? My imagination is running a little dry at the moment.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Mine would be the package.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
The vision package
The Superphysical Basics package is pretty thorough.

Originally posted by Mindship
I'm just saying, it may be more than just knowing which gene does this and which gene does that. The genome is a package deal; I would think that would be the best approach to major genetic engineering.

Where did you think I was headed? My imagination is running a little dry at the moment.

I know what you're talking about. what would we call that..

poly-genic expression? Genomic resonance? Macro-genic expression? Genic Jolism? (The last one is probably the best description, imo.)

I am sure a geneticist already has a word for what it is, but I've never run across it in my studies.