Originally posted by Badabing
Mandrakk wins.
Nice pic of Thanos. 👆
This is probably the funniest cosmic vs thread to date imo.
"Mandrakk was a threat to all of DC, but never did anything to DC."
... while ...
"Thanos erased all of Marvel including the LT,
then Thanos re-created all of Marvel from nothingness including the LT"
.. meh, Mandrakk still wins ...
"Mandrakk 'eats stories' in DC," according to DC/Writers
so of course, somehow this applies to Marvel. 😐
Because well, Marvel writers agreed to that. (yea, I also read the non-existent interview)
"Mandrakk can ONLY be defeated by superman and the cosmic armor," and he was defeated.
... while ...
Thanos was never defeated, by anyone, and couldn't be either,
in fact, he was the Supreme Being/GOD of the Omniverse empowered by the Writer.
... so what, Mandrakk still wins ... dur
** I know some true debaters in here are just being sarcastic, and cute,
but the sad thing is
other posters are actually making these Mandrakk claims in seriousness.
Well, not so sad as funny. 😂
Originally posted by Naija boyIn regards to this mandrak eating of story thing,
It simply should not be applicable in a vs forum match precisely because its in a neutral universe.This is because it has more to do with DCs metafictional approach to the construction of its stories than the retainment of a particular ability.
It isnt viable because it directly clashes with the constraints of the more prevalent method of fictional writing which both Marvel,
DC and most other companies regularly adopt and under which most KMC matches take place.For example,
in Marvel the stories of its characters cant be eaten because the entire concept of "the story" itself being recognizable and distinct from the characters within it is non existent.
Hence for Mandrakk to "eat their stories" we would have to assume that the Marvel characters "story" was a distinct entity that could be affected in the same way a character from DC's can.
Consequently we would be disregarding the very nature in which the Marvel character was written and judging based solely on DC writing concepts.
Now vice versa, by invalidating the strategy of "eating the story" we are going against the metafictional construction of Mandrakk by DC.
However im sure most will agree that the KMC vs environment is purely fictional and non self reflective environment.
Further since the metafictional writing style isnt commonplace across most platforms and companies,
when it comes down to choosing the default nature of KMC vs matches,
the more regular fictional writing style should be used.
Originally posted by Naija boyMarvel "stories" arent constructed in the same way as DC are.
Hence they CANT be eaten. Case closed.
Originally posted by Naija boyWhat i mean is that "Story" doesnt exist in Marvel the same way it does in DC
and hence Mandrakks "eating of stories" automatically becomes invalid.
Originally posted by Naija boyThe method is the only thing that made it possible for a character to eat another characters "story" in the first place.
In another universe in which the same method has no bearings
and in which a "story" is not treated from a metafictional perspective
the entire idea of "eating stories" falls apart.
Also,
Eny, good job as always,
glad to see someone's holding down the Marvel cosmic fact-fort while I'm incognito.
Quan, though they may throw stones at you,
you're also posting opinions based on truth concerning Thanos' supremacy w/THOTI.
swank
Originally posted by Naija boy
Indeed. thats not the point. The main point is entwined within this post of urs
head. table. repeat. 🙁
Originally posted by Mr Master
This is probably the funniest cosmic vs thread to date imo."Mandrakk was a threat to all of DC, but [b]never
did anything to DC."... while ...
"Thanos erased all of Marvel including the LT,
then Thanos re-created all of Marvel from nothingness including the LT".. meh, Mandrakk still wins ...
"Mandrakk 'eats stories' in DC," according to DC/Writers
so of course, somehow this applies to Marvel. 😐
Because well, Marvel writers agreed to that. (yea, I also read the non-existent interview)"Mandrakk can ONLY be defeated by superman and the cosmic armor," and he was defeated.
... while ...
Thanos was never defeated, by anyone, and couldn't be either,
in fact, he was the Supreme Being/GOD of the Omniverse empowered by the Writer.... so what, Mandrakk still wins ... dur
** I know some true debaters in here are just being sarcastic, and cute,
but the sad thing is
other posters are actually making these Mandrakk claims in seriousness.Well, not so sad as funny. 😂 [/B]
if you'd read the comic, you'd know that most of what you posted about Mandrakk is incorrect. actually, pretty much all of it is.
Originally posted by xJLxKing
Like I said before, FC is very confusing.That's not how it works. He built the armor which is Mandrakk's Kryptonite. Thanos isn't. That was clear is the story. Mandrakk was going to kill everyone, everything, all the "germ" in DCU if CA Superman wasn't there. That's why he is the biggest threat.
I didn't write FC
THAT'S THE ISSUE!! That's why he should be used in this particular forum. They exist in a neutral universe where it applies. That's why he is too strong.
I love this he's too strong argument as it's just rubbish. He was pwned by CA superman and some GL's nothing more. That is hardly too powerful.
JLX you really need to get this through your head..... When Mandrakk made the armor to beat him was he omnipotent or omniscent? The answer is NO he never was. The next question is was Thanos God of the Marvel universe and Omnipotent? The answer to that question is Yes. Therefore, why would it be unreasonable for somebody with better feats, better implied power and God which is superior to someone in question who made the armor not be able to do that himself or something else to get the job done? The answer to that question is there is no reason. Somebody less powerful with less feats made the armor and certainly somebody more powerful could do whatever it took to win. This whole he's too powerful thing while cool to say is just bullshit.
Originally posted by Enyalus
There is no bleed in Marvel. And he can't actually stand outside of the Marvel Universe like he could DC because they're constructed differently.Taken into a neutral universe, his powers conflict.
BUT THE BLEED IS ****ING SYMBOLIC.
IT SYMBOLIZES WHAT CONNECTS COMICS AND KEEPS THEM TOGETHER. THERE ARE ****ING STORIES IN MARVEL. THINK FOR 3 SECONDS, 3 SECONDS, OKAY? TRY TO KEEP YOUR BRAIN GOING FOR THREE SECONDS AND SEE PAST THE GOD DAMNED ENERGY BLASTS AND SUPER PUNCHEEEEES!
Originally posted by Kris Blaze
BUT THE BLEED IS ****ING SYMBOLIC.IT SYMBOLIZES WHAT CONNECTS COMICS AND KEEPS THEM TOGETHER.
Originally posted by Raoul
i'm not "protecting" anything.
Originally posted by Raoul and he has feats.
Originally posted by Astner
Why then would you suggest posters to read the issues, when his feats have already been presented. The evidence is on the table, there is no need for anyone to open up the comic, other than perhaps for the sheer interest.But not nearly enough to stand up against the supreme which was acknowledged by Eternity and proven when Thanos defeated the Living Tribunal.
there is, actually. mandrakk isn't like any other character. you actually have to read the book to understand who he is and what he's doing.
i'm not arguing whether thanos or mandrakk would win. i'm simply trying to straighten out misconceptions about the character. thats all.
its bound to run its course anyways. characters like madrakk get forgotten in a few months (which its been already), and only appear sporadically after that...