Originally posted by Philosophía
The way I read it, it was made quite clear that the only person, the only story able to combat Mandrakk was Superman's.
The first and greatest hero. The shining example of superheroes everywhere.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Comicbook/Superman
Originally posted by Astner
Thanos makes a better story. [/thread?]--Damn this is stupid. Fanboys throwing out no-limits fallacies to justify their fanboyism.
No, you marvel fanboys were dumb enough to make a thread with a character with no actual limits. Don't get mad at us for calling out your BS. 😛
It's obvious meta-fiction is a concept that's beyond you.
Originally posted by skyfather
👆
It's pathetic that they stoop to this lvl.
It's pathetic that marvel fans are so dumb. 🙄 I see commentary everywhere that shows one thing. You guys did not understand FC, Superman:Beyond, or anything Morrison writes. And since it's above your intellectual capacity to understand subtlety or anything more intelligent than "HULK SMASH!", sit back and let the adults talk. doped
Originally posted by TricksterPriestIt's pathetic that marvel fans are so dumb.
Mandrakk these nuts dogs,
yall can continue to salivate over that ridiculous concept,
but that's nothing but horse droppings where Marvel is concerned.
I could care less if IN the DC world Mandrakk eats story or whatever other nonsense,
Mandrakk isn't a Marvel character, and he has no affiliation to Marvel either,
so ... Mandrakk isn't eating shit ... that dumbass plot may work in a DC constricted book,
but this is not an isolated DC match,
so please with this Mandrakk cop out cheese move yall pressing.
Thanos re-creates Byrne's She-Hulk,
She-Hulk smacks up Morrison, and forces him to make Mandrakk her slave,
end of story,
or,
She-Hulk simply rpis off the page where Mandrakk is written to eat,
again, end of story.
See, I can summon nonsensical comedy too. 😬
You're so blind. None of this is nonsense. It is merely the undisputable nature of the character.
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:35:19 PM)
the prime monitor is the entity that created the entire DC multiverse
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:35:29 PM)
even the presence
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:35:49 PM)
Dax Novu was the first of the monitors
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:36:02 PM)
the presence created the rest of the DCU
Badabing says: (2:36:21 PM)
Yeah but what has he done? _He got beat by SUpes with the cosmic armor. _Maybe if you post some info in the threads it will be easier.
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:36:33 PM)
Dax Novu was poisoned by the idea of stories in the DCU
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:36:46 PM)
you're missing the symbolism and reading between the lines
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:36:50 PM)
he feeds on story
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:36:55 PM)
even the story of the presence
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:36:59 PM)
the story of DC itself
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:37:26 PM)
dax novu split into the anti-monitor and the monitor
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:37:54 PM)
but the real dax novu became an idea
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:38:05 PM)
the monitors believed he was evil,
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:38:18 PM)
and through their belief, he became the idea of evil
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:38:30 PM)
the vampire mandrakk, who feeds on the ideas of the DCU
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:38:34 PM)
the story itself
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:38:46 PM)
the entire DCU is a germ to the monitors
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:39:10 PM)
the monitors are feeding on the multiverse
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:39:39 PM)
Mandrakk's power is that he is beyond the ability of anything in the DCU to defeat
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:39:41 PM)
even the presence
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:39:51 PM)
Dax Novu, before his fall, created a weapon
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:40:05 PM)
the thought armor which we call Cosmic Armor Superman
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:40:19 PM)
Superman was picked because he and only he could defeat Mandrakk
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:40:29 PM)
the armor was powerful,
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:40:39 PM)
but it needed a story greater than Mandrakk's
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:41:03 PM)
Superman was the one, the story that surpassed all others, the first superhero, and only he could have won that fight
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:41:37 PM)
superman in the cosmic armor, held limbo, the dimension, in his hand
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:41:47 PM)
the orrery of worlds,
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:41:50 PM)
do you know what that is?
Badabing says: (2:42:10 PM)
Paul and I talked. _Mandrakk = Thanos with the IG.
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:42:15 PM)
*face
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:42:16 PM)
fools
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:42:29 PM)
the orrery is everything in DC
Badabing says: (2:42:32 PM)
lol. _.J/K
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:42:41 PM)
Mandrakk is bigger than DC itself
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:42:53 PM)
even the Spectre and the Presence
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:43:05 PM)
bigger than the hand at the dawn of creation
The sheer scale of this thing is apparently too great for you to understand.
Read FC. Read Superman Beyond. See if we're BSing. Because I guarantee not one of the people disputing our claims actually understands the scale of what happened in those stories.
You refuse to acknowledge any kind of 4th wall save as a joke. But when confronted by something that doesn't fit the marvel defintion, you just call it BS and refuse to actually debate it. Because you can't win in a real match.
Call it stupid or whatever. But mandrakk still wins. Because this isn't a marvel biased site. Powers from one universe work in another on this forum to a degree. And matches take place in a neutral setting, where both combatents can use all of their powers.
Originally posted by TricksterPriestYou're so blind. None of this is nonsense.
It is merely the undisputable nature of the character.
No illustrated character in a story,
should be able to eat his own story where he himself is an imagined fantasy made by ink.
Originally posted by TricksterPriestViewtiful Mazin says: (2:35:19 PM)
the prime monitor is the entity that created the entire DC multiverse
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:35:29 PM)
even the presence
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:35:49 PM)
Dax Novu was the first of the monitors
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:36:02 PM)
the presence created the rest of the DCU
Badabing says: (2:36:21 PM)
Yeah but what has he done? _He got beat by SUpes with the cosmic armor. _Maybe if you post some info in the threads it will be easier.
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:36:33 PM)
Dax Novu was poisoned by the idea of stories in the DCU
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:36:46 PM)
you're missing the symbolism and reading between the lines
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:36:50 PM)
he feeds on story
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:36:55 PM)
even the story of the presence
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:36:59 PM)
the story of DC itself
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:37:26 PM)
dax novu split into the anti-monitor and the monitor
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:37:54 PM)
but the real dax novu became an idea
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:38:05 PM)
the monitors believed he was evil,
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:38:18 PM)
and through their belief, he became the idea of evil
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:38:30 PM)
the vampire mandrakk, who feeds on the ideas of the DCU
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:38:34 PM)
the story itself
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:38:46 PM)
the entire DCU is a germ to the monitors
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:39:10 PM)
the monitors are feeding on the multiverse
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:39:39 PM)
Mandrakk's power is that he is beyond the ability of anything in the DCU to defeat
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:39:41 PM)
even the presence
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:39:51 PM)
Dax Novu, before his fall, created a weapon
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:40:05 PM)
the thought armor which we call Cosmic Armor Superman
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:40:19 PM)
Superman was picked because he and only he could defeat Mandrakk
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:40:29 PM)
the armor was powerful,
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:40:39 PM)
but it needed a story greater than Mandrakk's
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:41:03 PM)
Superman was the one, the story that surpassed all others, the first superhero, and only he could have won that fight
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:41:37 PM)
superman in the cosmic armor, held limbo, the dimension, in his hand
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:41:47 PM)
the orrery of worlds,
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:41:50 PM)
do you know what that is?
Badabing says: (2:42:10 PM)
Paul and I talked. _Mandrakk = Thanos with the IG.
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:42:15 PM)
*face
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:42:16 PM)
fools
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:42:29 PM)
the orrery is everything in DC
Badabing says: (2:42:32 PM)
lol. _.J/K
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:42:41 PM)
Mandrakk is bigger than DC itself
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:42:53 PM)
even the Spectre and the Presence
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:43:05 PM)
bigger than the hand at the dawn of creation
If any character supposedly rips pages off of comics,
or eats stories within a comic, where the character itself is part of the story, lol,
I call that 4th wall garbage,
and it doesn't belong in the midst of conventional comic book writing.
Originally posted by TricksterPriestThe sheer scale of this thing is apparently too great for you to understand.
Originally posted by TricksterPriestRead FC. Read Superman Beyond. See if we're BSing. Because I guarantee not one of the people disputing our claims actually understands the scale of what happened in those stories.
Originally posted by TricksterPriestYou refuse to acknowledge any kind of 4th wall save as a joke. But when confronted by something that doesn't fit the marvel defintion, you just call it BS and refuse to actually debate it. Because you can't win in a real match.
I do acknowledge what yall are stating about this arc with Mandrakk,
and this is the very reason I think it doesn't belong in a vs match with other characters,
that are trapped by comic book laws.
Originally posted by TricksterPriestCall it stupid or whatever. But mandrakk still wins. Because this isn't a marvel biased site. Powers from one universe work in another on this forum to a degree. And matches take place in a neutral setting, where both combatents can use all of their powers.
How are you gonna jam this Mandrakk cat into a Marvel based setting?
Mandrakk can eat story in DC,
because it was written by a current DC writer in a DC book,
but try and tell a Marvel writer in a Marvel book,
your character loses cause mine can eat the story yours is appearing on,
you'll be laughed at hard.
It's simple, if Mandrakk can eat story,
then Thanos can re-create Byrne's She-Hulk to balance the match,
otherwise, it's unfair all around,
cause you got a 4th wall joke vs a being restricted by comic book conventional fictionality.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
You're so blind. None of this is nonsense. It is merely the undisputable nature of the character.Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:35:19 PM)
the prime monitor is the entity that created the entire DC multiverse
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:35:29 PM)
even the presence
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:35:49 PM)
Dax Novu was the first of the monitors
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:36:02 PM)
the presence created the rest of the DCU
Badabing says: (2:36:21 PM)
Yeah but what has he done? _He got beat by SUpes with the cosmic armor. _Maybe if you post some info in the threads it will be easier.
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:36:33 PM)
Dax Novu was poisoned by the idea of stories in the DCU
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:36:46 PM)
you're missing the symbolism and reading between the lines
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:36:50 PM)
he feeds on story
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:36:55 PM)
even the story of the presence
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:36:59 PM)
the story of DC itself
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:37:26 PM)
dax novu split into the anti-monitor and the monitor
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:37:54 PM)
but the real dax novu became an idea
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:38:05 PM)
the monitors believed he was evil,
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:38:18 PM)
and through their belief, he became the idea of evil
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:38:30 PM)
the vampire mandrakk, who feeds on the ideas of the DCU
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:38:34 PM)
the story itself
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:38:46 PM)
the entire DCU is a germ to the monitors
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:39:10 PM)
the monitors are feeding on the multiverse
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:39:39 PM)
Mandrakk's power is that he is beyond the ability of anything in the DCU to defeat
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:39:41 PM)
even the presence
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:39:51 PM)
Dax Novu, before his fall, created a weapon
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:40:05 PM)
the thought armor which we call Cosmic Armor Superman
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:40:19 PM)
Superman was picked because he and only he could defeat Mandrakk
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:40:29 PM)
the armor was powerful,
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:40:39 PM)
but it needed a story greater than Mandrakk's
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:41:03 PM)
Superman was the one, the story that surpassed all others, the first superhero, and only he could have won that fight
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:41:37 PM)
superman in the cosmic armor, held limbo, the dimension, in his hand
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:41:47 PM)
the orrery of worlds,
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:41:50 PM)
do you know what that is?
Badabing says: (2:42:10 PM)
Paul and I talked. _Mandrakk = Thanos with the IG.
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:42:15 PM)
*face
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:42:16 PM)
fools
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:42:29 PM)
the orrery is everything in DC
Badabing says: (2:42:32 PM)
lol. _.J/K
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:42:41 PM)
Mandrakk is bigger than DC itself
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:42:53 PM)
even the Spectre and the Presence
Viewtiful Mazin says: (2:43:05 PM)
bigger than the hand at the dawn of creationThe sheer scale of this thing is apparently too great for you to understand.
Read FC. Read Superman Beyond. See if we're BSing. Because I guarantee not one of the people disputing our claims actually understands the scale of what happened in those stories.
You refuse to acknowledge any kind of 4th wall save as a joke. But when confronted by something that doesn't fit the marvel defintion, you just call it BS and refuse to actually debate it. Because you can't win in a real match.
Call it stupid or whatever. But mandrakk still wins. Because this isn't a marvel biased site. Powers from one universe work in another on this forum to a degree. And matches take place in a neutral setting, where both combatents can use all of their powers.
I choose Thanos w/HotI. He actually did something of substance on panel.
Also, Popeye would likely beat Mandrakk as well based on the "better story" angle.
Originally posted by Galan007
It's an absolute fact that only the greatest story of them all (ie. Superman's) was powerful enough to overcome Mandrakk.
And I bet there are many people who prefer Wolverine's stories over Thanos' and Mandrakk's. What does that mean? It means shit.