Kratos vs. Master Chief

Originally posted by First_Tsurugi06
All that being said, Kratos was only ever portrayed as a "mere human" at maybe two points in the series. Three at best. Any other form of Kratos-as in the Kratos consistent to the series-is virtually in a whole other league from Chief. The God of War series in and of itself in on a higher scale of power than the Halo series. I find it doubtful for Kratos to even HAVE to try.

No one has any doubt that Kratos would win this in any other state than mere human. I'm debating human Kratos and nothing else.

But for the sake of having it said, Halo would kill Kratos.

1. I'd probably say MC. But that depends if he is faster than Kratos.

2. I'd probably say MC, unless Kratos can damage his armor.

Originally posted by Gumachi
1. I'd probably say MC. But that depends if he is faster than Kratos.

2. I'd probably say MC, unless Kratos can damage his armor.

He is faster. It's impossible to say if he can damage his armor.

Human Kratos isn't the one being debated here to my knowledge. At virtually every point in the series that Kratos has his baldes, he also has his basic powers as a demigod. "Human" Kratos is the Kratos that led a conquest throughout Greece, entered the Elysium Fields to see his daughter (after giving up his powers at the tree), etc. That's the only Kratos that Chief is beating.

The series or the actual thing? Because I would be hard-pressed to believe you meant the former.

If he's a demigod, how can he drain his powers (which is what I meant when Ares giving him power)? Anyway, I guess the first fight, mortal Kratos loses.

PIS if anything. The power that was placed into the Blade of Olympus was the God of War's power, which was in the Colossus of Rhodes, which is where Kratos absorbed it from. Gameplaywise, him draining his powers by hand was just to lower his gameplay stats for the sake of leveling up again.

Originally posted by First_Tsurugi06
That's the only Kratos that Chief is beating.

As you haven't paid attention, I'll clear it up for you: That's what she's been saying all along. You're on some quest to convince her of something she already knows.

Originally posted by Gumachi
^Good point. But what about Athena Blades (and how did Athena give him the blades?)?

He got those after Ares stripped him of the blades at the end.

Originally posted by Q'Anilia
Same thing applies. Forged by mortals, or by Gods. It's the properties that makes the blade useful and not who made it. That's all it comes down to. Result, rather than origin.

Master Chief masters every weapon. If you doubt his swordskills, he can just use his fists instead. I've yet to be convinced Kratos as a human is any match against Master Chief. Even with those swords.

Thats not how we debate around here though. Gouki, Gouken, Ryu and Ken are all masters of their style but what separates them are feats. Just saying that they are a master isn't enough to grant one a win. If MC has no sword feats that puts him above Kratos then how can he win? If he tries to use his fists then he is asking to die by any version of Kratos since he'll have to get real close up to him and Kratos at the beginning of the game had moves that kept enemies back.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Thats not how we debate around here though. Gouki, Gouken, Ryu and Ken are all masters of their style but what separates them are feats. Just saying that they are a master isn't enough to grant one a win. If MC has no sword feats that puts him above Kratos then how can he win? If he tries to use his fists then he is asking to die by any version of Kratos since he'll have to get real close up to him and Kratos at the beginning of the game had moves that kept enemies back.

There's a difference between comparing two fighters competence in a fight where that's what matters and comparing two fighters competence in a fight where it don't.
John is faster than the Kratos in question and he see everything in slowmotion. Even if Kratos has a master move waiting, John will outmove him. By the time Kratos is done with his move, John is not where Kratos first aimed with his move.

Besides, what stops John from throwing the Energy Sword straight into Kratos at the beginning of the fight? He is faster and strong enough to throw it fast enough to hit.
I don't know exactly "how you debate" here, but we must at least be allowed to assume that a genetic supersoldier bread for war, master of every weapon and with the intelligence of a supercomputer has the capability to throw an energy sword.

Originally posted by Q'Anilia
There's a difference between comparing two fighters competence in a fight where that's what matters and comparing two fighters competence in a fight where it don't.
John is faster than the Kratos in question and he see everything in slowmotion. Even if Kratos has a master move waiting, John will outmove him. By the time Kratos is done with his move, John is not where Kratos first aimed with his move.

Besides, what stops John from throwing the Energy Sword straight into Kratos at the beginning of the fight? He is faster and strong enough to throw it fast enough to hit.
I don't know exactly "how you debate" here, but we must at least be allowed to assume that a genetic supersoldier bread for war, master of every weapon and with the intelligence of a supercomputer has the capability to throw an energy sword.

The fact that most of his moves covers a huge area around him. MC can dodge it but he still won't be able to get in there and attack because the next attack would come right afterwards.

Two things are stopping him from doing so. Distance, he won't hit him if the distance is too great unless you have some feats that suggests he throws weapons at mach speeds.

The other is that it isn't in character for him to just throw a weapon that isn't meant to be thrown. Does MC just throw melee weapons around? I don't believe so and they act in character in debates here. Its the same reason why Kratos wouldn't try to not make a killing blow.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
He got those after Ares stripped him of the blades at the end.

No, I mean, how did she give him The Blades? Did she do it a painful way like Ares?

Tell me about the swords. Right now I'm confused. You make it sound like they cover a 360 degree radius when he swing them. So they don't function how swords normally do? What properties do they have that deny John approach.

Originally posted by Gumachi
No, I mean, how did she give him The Blades? Did she do it a painful way like Ares?

No she gave them to him out of kindness and stuff. They weren't bound to him at all, he could take them off if he wanted.

Originally posted by Q'Anilia
Tell me about the swords. Right now I'm confused. You make it sound like they cover a 360 degree radius when he swing them. So they don't function how swords normally do? What properties do they have that deny John approach.

They are chain blades, not swords.

Starts at 2:30 and as you can see he is able to spin 360 degrees with them and cover great distances and there is really no down time to any of his moves. He still has some of his god powers at this point but his god powers never affected his moves or what he could do with the blades.

YouTube video

This thread is a well of misinformation.

I am sorry Q, but you have no idea what you are talking about.

First of all, Kratos' reactions are above John's, unless you can show me MC reacting to and deflecting lightning?

Kratos is not a mortal in this thread. He can't use any MAGIC he has received from the Gods, he still retains his natural, base-Demigod physical abilities.

With this, he has strength to resist being crushed by Aries. Who is strong enough by feats to throw the actual Halo like a frisbee(Not literally, but in the game he is lifting at least the Earth's crust). This level of strength puts MC's durability feat to shame.

Kratos physically rips John's head off.

You drive a girl insane 😐

I know Master Chief dies. He never stood a chance. This thread was over before it started. I simply added that the only way he could win, would be if Kratos was 100% human and 0% special beyond what a human can be. I meant that John was faster than mere-human Kratos. That John was stronger than mere-human Kratos.

I know very well that any other Kratos stomps Master Chief. Some version(s) literally.

Originally posted by Q'Anilia
You drive a girl insane 😐

I [b]know Master Chief dies. He never stood a chance. This thread was over before it started. I simply added that the only way he could win, would be if Kratos was 100% human and 0% special beyond what a human can be. I meant that John was faster than mere-human Kratos. That John was stronger than mere-human Kratos.

I know very well that any other Kratos stomps Master Chief. Some version(s) literally. [/B]

Hm, fair enough, missed that bit, thought you were arguing based on the OP of this thread. I apologise.

And of course human powers Kratos would die.

Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
Is that a compliment? mmm

Originally posted by Q'Anilia
Could be to some 😐

A pleasure 😊