Lich King vs God Kratos

Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
I don't know guys, the two battles with Tirion were physical, so was the battle of Wrathgate. The Lich King pretty much got his ass handed to him in all of these cases.

Tirion Fordring had the power of thousands holy souls, every soul at Light's Hope Chapel. He held the most holy of weapons on all of Azeroth and fought on Holy ground. He was the second greatest paladin of all time, a bringer of light, the one magic proven efficient against the undead.
Arthas met Tirion Fordring again later, in Northrend. Tirion got his ass kicked bigtime. Darion Mograine had to come save his butt and flee the scene.

At the Wrathgate, Lich King was defeated by Varimathras with preparation. The poison was burning through the flesh of anyone hit by it. Lich King retreated not because he had to, but because there was nothing more for him to do there anyway. The Horde and Alliance forces was getting killed by "Sylvanas".

Originally posted by Q'Anilia
Tirion Fordring had the power of thousands holy souls, every soul at Light's Hope Chapel. He held the most holy of weapons on all of Azeroth and fought on Holy ground. He was the second greatest paladin of all time, a bringer of light, the one magic proven efficient against the undead.
Arthas met Tirion Fordring again later, in Northrend. Tirion got his ass kicked bigtime. Darion Mograine had to come save his butt and flee the scene.

At the Wrathgate, Lich King was defeated by Varimathras with preparation. The poison was burning through the flesh of anyone hit by it. Lich King retreated not because he had to, but because there was nothing more for him to do there anyway. The Horde and Alliance forces was getting killed by "Sylvanas".

True, true, but the Lich King was also hurt. I'm sure if Tirion wasn't knocked unconscious, he would have been able to perhaps even kill the Lich King. He was ripe for it, just kneeling there, probably half-unconscious. Then again, his heart got destroyed. That probably explains why he was so hurt.

Yes, but it was still just poison(albeit very powerful) and it obviously hurt him. He had even succumbed to it for a few moments, but managed to get up and walk away, looking and sounding hurt.

Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
True, true, but the Lich King was also hurt. I'm sure if Tirion wasn't knocked unconscious, he would have been able to perhaps even kill the Lich King. He was ripe for it, just kneeling there, probably half-unconscious. Then again, his heart got destroyed. That probably explains why he was so hurt.

Yes, but it was still just poison(albeit very powerful) and it obviously hurt him. He had even succumbed to it for a few moments, but managed to get up and walk away, looking and sounding hurt.

Tirion destroyed his heart. The Lich King ended up on the brink of death. Had Tirion not suffered similar injuries, he could perhaps have killed him. Remember the words of Darion though: "While injured, the Lich King is still too strong for us to do anything now." Darion retreated then with the Paladin and Death Knight group. A crippled Lich King on the brink of death, on his knees, virtually immoblizied, without sword was too strong for Darion and his healthy group of elite men to kill.

He coughed with a slight limp. He inhaled poison that corroded and burnt the skin of those touched by it. Since he still has organs and is only partially undead, the insides of his body must've been beyond agony.

Originally posted by Q'Anilia
Tirion destroyed his heart. The Lich King ended up on the brink of death. Had Tirion not suffered similar injuries, he could perhaps have killed him. Remember the words of Darion though: "While injured, the Lich King is still too strong for us to do anything now." Darion retreated then with the Paladin and Death Knight group. A crippled Lich King on the brink of death, on his knees, virtually immoblizied, without sword was too strong for Darion and his healthy group of elite men to kill.

He coughed with a slight limp. He inhaled poison that corroded and burnt the skin of those touched by it. Since he still has organs and is only partially undead, the insides of his body must've been beyond agony.

True that. I'm just saying though. Before WotLK came out, I had a few discussions on WoW forums; there were people claiming that now that the LK fused with Arthas, he became more powerful than Kil'jaeden and perhaps even rivaled the Titans themselves. I called bullshit back then and I guess I was right all along. I'm just trying to show that he isn't as hot as some people thought.

It's uncertain if Lich King is even the same level as the dragon aspects. We've yet to see. Looking forward to more additions to the Lich King's powers.

Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
Slash Kratos?

Seriously...If you think it would be at all a good idea for the Lich King to enter a physical battle with a being who trumps him physically in his base form...You are just wrong.

Lich King slashes Kratos once. Kratos punts Lich King out of orbit.

Also, Kratos has the Blade of Olympus. Which makes this fight extraordinarly broken. The Blade at a weaker form was able to end the Great Titan War in one blow, defeating every Titan, and now it is in the hands of God Kratos.

What stops Kratos from holding LK with TK, and then destroying him with one attack from the Blade of Olympus?

What do you mean weaker form?

And if you're talking about before Kratos invested his powers into The Blade, it didn't seem to be any more powerful.

Lich King against anyone that can not bust planets or battle the spirit realm is tipped in his favor. Cheap as it may sound, Lich King can't die to a physical enemy unless he himself take physical form. Even then it's arguable if he'll even die when his body does. As of fusion, Lich King became Eternal. It is not a character I would put in versus debates. He simply is without equal.

lol what a daft thing to say..."sigh", your statement I feel is hypocrtical because your quick to judge me as a fanboy and words like yours are worse if not a mimic of what I have said about Kain, although I can debate mine, can you say the same about your statements?

Originally posted by Q'Anilia
Lich King against anyone that can not bust planets or battle the spirit realm is tipped in his favor. Cheap as it may sound, Lich King can't die to a physical enemy unless he himself take physical form. Even then it's arguable if he'll even die when his body does. As of fusion, Lich King became Eternal. It is not a character I would put in versus debates. He simply is without equal.

Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
You can't actually prove that though since he has lost twice.

Three times. More if you include foiled plans.
For as long as the Lich King use his powers in each ones most efficient way, what I said is in no way wrong. No matter what you or Burning Thought says. It's not bias or anything of the sort. Such is simply the case. If the Lich King use the spirit world best he can, he is untouchable.

The Lich King knows he's a supreme force on Azeroth, that's why he keep getting defeated. If he did not know his own limits so well, he would be far more cautious.

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Originally posted by Gumachi
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If you can think of another way to kill someone in the spirit realm, I'm all ears 🙂 All I see is either destroying the planet, or having capability to attack the spirit realm.

One quick question.

Has Lich King actually shown to be incorpereal in the Spirit Realm?

I think Kratos destroyed souls in CoO 😉

Did he?

Ummm, yeah.

Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
One quick question.

Has Lich King actually shown to be incorpereal in the Spirit Realm?

In the spirit realm, I think incorpereal is corpereal. One spirit can touch another. He becomes a spirit, if that's what you mean.

Kewl.

Kratos realizes that to save the world, he has no choice but to abandon his daughter - he is thus doomed never to reunite with his family. Casting a deaf year to Calliope's pleading, he turns away and proceeds to destroy the pure souls in the Elysium Fields, in an effort to regain his power once more.