Originally posted by cloud102How can't he hit him?
If he can actually tag him.
Originally posted by cloud102That doesn't translate to much on the battlefield.
SHAZAM Billy had the will to hold up the planet in SHAZAM maxi series.
Originally posted by cloud102It was very impressive, but he really didn't put any of the bigger threats down.
So, Adam took on Alan Scott, MM, Billy, and a slew of 2nd tier characters. Not bad. I still think this is close. Marvel's Family's durability is insane.
Originally posted by CharmanderNot at all. Thor was an absolute beast and his hammer would knock Adam's teeth out.
Teth front kicks him through the sternum.
Originally posted by TricksterPriestThor was winning. If you consider easily crushing both the Surfer and warlock to be retarded then that's on you.
Blood and Thunder Thor is not going to his hammer's full power. He'll fight like a brain dead retard.He may win, he may not. But Adam despite being in rage mode, won't fight as stupidly. Not to mention the speed edge.
"nor has a superman leveller ever won a battle against thor using his speed. in ANY COMBAT where thor has gone against a superman-esque character, he has ALWAYS held his own. hyperion. gladiator. warlock. surfer. count nefaria. during the reiging, a one-armed thor, who was severely weakened and ready for the odinsleep, effortlessly met thialfi's blitz:"
Surfer is the only one of those guys that Superman would not crush easily.
Glads never uses his speed. And the reiging? That was an amped Thor.
Originally posted by TricksterPriestAdam was fighting in a blind rage. Did you read ww 3?
He's going to use it like a club. 😬 That's nowhere near as dangerous as using it's true power.Adam is faster and won't be fighting in a blind rage. I'm not giving him the win outright, but Thor is at a DISADVANTAGE in this mode.
Originally posted by leonidasNicely done.
nor has a superman leveller ever won a battle against thor using his speed. in ANY COMBAT where thor has gone against a superman-esque character, he has ALWAYS held his own. hyperion. gladiator. warlock. surfer. count nefaria. during the reiging, a one-armed thor, who was severely weakened and ready for the odinsleep, effortlessly met thialfi's blitz:http://img19.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thialfi.jpg
here agin, hela comments on his speed--it beggars description and thor himself says he can move at the speed of lightning. like adam also stated WHILE in direct combat with thor:
http://img19.imageshack.us/my.php?image=helan.jpg
and thor never had the gem when he singlehandedly almost killed adam and ss simultaneously. claim pis all you'd like. when that is the last resort in any argument, your argument has failed. 😉
and as enyalus has said--he used the powers of his hammer many times in that arc.
don't know if he could absorb the lightning. doesn't matter. thor wins.
Originally posted by TricksterPriestSupes wouldn't crush any of them. You need to support your argument with reasoning to get the point across. Glads has used his speed against Thor as well.
"nor has a superman leveller ever won a battle against thor using his speed. in ANY COMBAT where thor has gone against a superman-esque character, he has ALWAYS held his own. hyperion. gladiator. warlock. surfer. count nefaria. during the reiging, a one-armed thor, who was severely weakened and ready for the odinsleep, effortlessly met thialfi's blitz:"Surfer is the only one of those guys that Superman would not crush easily.
Glads never uses his speed. And the reiging? That was an amped Thor.
Thor was extremely weakened and about to enter the odinsleep and still pressed on.
Context.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
"nor has a superman leveller ever won a battle against thor using his speed. in ANY COMBAT where thor has gone against a superman-esque character, he has ALWAYS held his own. hyperion. gladiator. warlock. surfer. count nefaria. during the reiging, a one-armed thor, who was severely weakened and ready for the odinsleep, effortlessly met thialfi's blitz:"Surfer is the only one of those guys that Superman would not crush easily.
huh? "easily?" i'd give him the majority against hyperion or gladiator or even nefaria. but none of them would be 'easy' wins. warlock would be interesting, imo.
Glads never uses his speed.
i know, i know--according to you and a couple others NO ONE ever uses speed against thor and no one ever has in the whole history of the character. lucky thor! 😱
And the reiging? That was an amped Thor.
what quanchi said. 😉
Originally posted by cloud102
Wow, you have some mighty fine evidence there. Still close.
Originally posted by Naija boy
Yeah and im sure showing examples of BA getting his ass kicked or claiming "He takes on the JSA" counts as evidence doesnt it? Obviously its close in ur own head but there a sharp difference between ur imagination and reality.(at least the reality in this context)
Right, so nothing at all. Thanks for playing.
Originally posted by cloud102
Sure he was hurt, but he wasn't out. He's survived a lot worse.Hell, Billy who is equal to Adam was able to take on the Spectre for a short amount of time until he was amped. Spectre > Thor.
This post is so inane and retarded i dont know where to begin. For one if such attacks are able to hurt him then clearly a continuous onslaught of greater attacks will put him down no problems.
And now to the part that really defies logic. How the hell does logic which says that " Billy took on spectre for a short time and he is equal to Adam and since spectre is greater than thor this counts as evidence of why adam will beat thor" register as even remotely valid in ur mind? 🤨 That is honestly one of the most laughable and absurd statements ive read on KMC in a while. In DOV spectre mauled billy badly before he got amped. HEck the ON panel description was that Billy was like a parapelegic child trying to go toe toe with a heavyweight prizefighter. And somehow want to use that to validate Adam beating thor in this state? Lets see that work another way, Thor has taken on the celestials for a longer period of time than billy did spectre and performed way better. Since billy is equal to Adam and the celestials are far above both of them then the fact that thor "took them on" somehow helps prove the case that thor is superior to Adam amirite? 😱
This post is so inane and retarded i dont know where to begin. For one if such attacks are able to hurt him then clearly a continuous onslaught of greater attacks will put him down no problems.
No need for insults, man. If you don't agree, fine, but I didn't come to insult. I even asked a question, which you have never answered. Who has put Adam down with magic or blunt force? I have even given examples of Adam taking on force from Synn on more than one occasion. Taken on the JSA, Billy SHAZAM, etc... and why do you keep saying Thor would just throw an onslaught of blows at Adam, when Adam has PROVEN his speed. Both Adam and Billy have tagged Flash's in their lifetime and has actually used super speed. Plus Adam's Wisdom has helped him out in the past as well.
And now to the part that really defies logic. How the hell does logic which says that " Billy took on spectre for a short time and he is equal to Adam and since spectre is greater than thor this counts as evidence of why adam will beat thor" register as even remotely valid in ur mind? That is honestly one of the most laughable and absurd statements ive read on KMC in a while. In DOV spectre mauled billy badly before he got amped. HEck the ON panel description was that Billy was like a parapelegic child trying to go toe toe with a heavyweight prizefighter. And somehow want to use that to validate Adam beating thor in this state? Lets see that work another way, Thor has taken on the celestials for a longer period of time than billy did spectre and performed way better. Since billy is equal to Adam and the celestials are far above both of them then the fact that thor "took them on" somehow helps prove the case that thor is superior to Adam amirite?
Because for most purposes, Billy is equal to Adam. Pretty much always has been since they were created. Hell, Adam harmed Spectre in John's JSA, so I'm betting he can harm Thor, who is weaker. Billy has also taken on magic attacks generated through 5 D Energy. It's hard to get more powerful than that in terms of actual magic.
So, let me ask again, when has Adam been taken down? Find some examples and I'll concede.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
"nor has a superman leveller ever won a battle against thor using his speed. in ANY COMBAT where thor has gone against a superman-esque character, he has ALWAYS held his own. hyperion. gladiator. warlock. surfer. count nefaria. during the reiging, a one-armed thor, who was severely weakened and ready for the odinsleep, effortlessly met thialfi's blitz:"Surfer is the only one of those guys that Superman would not crush easily.
Glads never uses his speed. And the reiging? That was an amped Thor.
this post is hilarious, I give supes the majority over hyperion and that alone wont be easy.
and thor wins this 10/10
