WWIII Black Adam vs. Superman

Originally posted by The Pict
BA isn't more powerful than Superman. He hasn't done a fraction of the things Superman has.

I take it people are just gonna ignore WW3 BA getting knocked down the street just because he got hit with a steel girder?

Better stated.

BA is very comparable to superman. Yep superman has many more feats them ba. Especially LIFTING feats! Just wanted to mention that. people just love to mention supes lifting feats. Now the fact remains weather post or pre crisis BA has a better track record against superman then superman does against Ba That is a fact.

As far as BA being more powerful then superman, physically they are about equals. Supes is a bit faster and BA is at least on par with supes as far as duribility goes. BA has taken hits from prime and recovered quickly, but on the other hand MM vision melted his face. Like wise supes has taken dmg from eradicater and Gen zod in the past. As far as blunt force goes i think they are bout even as far as duribility goes.

Btw did i mention supes LIFTING FEATS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by Enyalus
Supes' face was scratched/blackened by Zod's HV, though.

Eradicator has physically burn holes ins supes face too.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
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I see you jokes didn't look at my scans D:

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
I see you jokes didn't look at my scans D:

Just remembered this.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Someone messed up. Kinda contradicting to whats been posted about him having the power of 7. When she died, it went back into the amulet.

Gets amulet. Mentioned how the power is in there.

After Adam finds the word, he mentions no longer needing to use Isis's residual energy.

Faust mentions that Isis's connection to the amulet is still strong. Then shows mary and freddy find it and spread through earth.

So..what scan exactly contradicts what I've posted, which flat-out states that Black Adam was powered by seven gods and that Isis gave her power to Black Adam ? All you've shown up until now is a scan showing that the amulet contained Isis's power prior to Adriana transforming, another scan showing that Black Adam no longer uses the residual energy within Isis's bones to summon the lightning, and that she still retains a strong connection to the amulet.

You're taking leaps of logic, and assume that this somehow is contradicting what has been clearly established, when that's clearly not the case. It is stated during the 52 series that Black Adam is powered by 7 gods. Later, when he gives his power to Mary, it is flat-out stated that Isis gave her powers to Black Adam which he in turn gave to Mary. And you'll just have to take my word for it (since I'm not going to search for it) that it is stated in an interview during around the WW3 period that Black Adam has Isis's powers aswell. It's somewhere in the old Newsarama forum (if it's still there).

I'd like nothing better than Black Adam not to be powered up during WW3. But he was, and there's clear proof showing this.

Originally posted by Philosophía
Just remembered this.

So..what scan exactly contradicts what I've posted, which flat-out states that Black Adam was powered by seven gods and that Isis gave her power to Black Adam ? All you've shown up until now is a scan showing that the amulet contained Isis's power prior to Adriana transforming, another scan showing that Black Adam no longer uses the residual energy within Isis's bones to summon the lightning, and that she still retains a strong connection to the amulet.

You're taking leaps of logic, and assume that this somehow is contradicting what has been clearly established, when that's clearly not the case. It is stated during the 52 series that Black Adam is powered by 7 gods. Later, when he gives his power to Mary, it is flat-out stated that Isis gave her powers to Black Adam which he in turn gave to Mary. And you'll just have to take my word for it (since I'm not going to search for it) that it is stated in an interview during around the WW3 period that Black Adam has Isis's powers aswell. It's somewhere in the old Newsarama forum (if it's still there).

I'd like nothing better than Black Adam not to be powered up during WW3. But he was, and there's clear proof showing this.

What contradicts is that, Adam states that the power is in the amulet. Then it was stated that the amulet was found then broken up into 4. It was then stated again that the power to bring Isis back was in the amulet in which she was given in the first place. Also, if Adam was powered by Isis along with his 6 gods, he wouldnt need the amulet. Hed just give the power back because it would be in him, right?

Also, if he were powered by Isis, when Marvel changed him back, hed still have her power, but not his own. He didnit. Isis's power isnt connected to Marvel/Adams so hed still have her power. You seriously dont see something wrong with that? How the hell does Silvana(sp?) know if Adam is boosted by Isis anyways?

Originally posted by jrodslam
What contradicts is that, Adam states that the power is in the amulet. Then it was stated that the amulet was found then broken up into 4. It was then stated again that the power to bring Isis back was in the amulet in which she was given in the first place. Also, if Adam was powered by Isis along with his 6 gods, he wouldnt need the amulet. Hed just give the power back because it would be in him, right?

Also, if he were powered by Isis, when Marvel changed him back, hed still have her power, but not his own. He didnit. Isis's power isnt connected to Marvel/Adams so hed still have her power. You seriously dont see something wrong with that? How the hell does Silvana(sp?) know if Adam is boosted by Isis anyways?

Adam states that the power is within the amulet before Adriana summons it. It was stated that the amulet was the key to bringing her back but nothing about her power being returned to her amulet once she was dead. Who said giving her powers back was what was needed in order to resurrect Isis ? You're assuming things and taking leaps of logic just because you can't accept clear evidence that Black Adam was powered by Isis.

'How did Sivana know ?'. Are you serious with this counter-arguments ? Besides this laughable stance, you're ignoring it being flat-out stated that Black Adam was powered by Isis. On panel. You're also ignoring what I said earlier about the writers themselves saying in an interview that Black Adam had Isis's powers stacked above his. You're wrong. Now stop.

Adam

superman more often than not i think

MM was taking it to Adam before he mind ****ed himself.Superman is greater than MM. There is a reason BA didn't fight WW,CM,Superman, GL, Flash in WW3. It wasn't feasible that he could realisticly beat any of them and still be tuff enuff to rampage the other heroes. Superman wins.

logical leaping "101"

WW III BA had his powers plus the powers of Isis. It was stated that Isis was more powerful than BA also. So all the talk of everyone jobbing in WW III is a bit exaggerated.

BA on his own is a peer of Supes, more or less.

Superman with his mental blocks is a peer of BA (but slightly better due to more powers). But some to all of those blocks come off during the fight. Superman without the blocks is superior to BA.

Statements in comics are invalid if either it is shown otherwise or it is not shown at all while already being somewhat unbelievable. For example, it was stated that Sentry stalemated Galactus. This wasn't shown nor is it believable. Thus it isn't valid.

Captain Marvel matched WWIII BA so that is why him being more powerful than a non holding back Superman is unbelievable.

Originally posted by lightyeargee
MM was taking it to Adam before he mind ****ed himself.

The mind backlash was PIS. MM admitted he could have simply shut Adams mind down, but instead tried controlling his body, and secondly MM not being able to handle the pain from Adams life is contradicted by the end of the series where Adam can't handle MM's entire planet dying.

There's no way MM should have been phased by Adams problems.

^ Except he was. J'onn coming to grips with his own population getting decimated doesn't automatically make him immune to seeing millions dying. It actually reraises the severe trauma that he felt. Except it's fresh and new and not a somber memory.

Originally posted by h1a8
Superman with his mental blocks is a peer of BA (but slightly better due to more powers). But some to all of those blocks come off during the fight. Superman without the blocks is superior to BA.

Statements in comics are invalid if either it is shown otherwise or it is not shown at all while already being somewhat unbelievable. For example, it was stated that Sentry stalemated Galactus. This wasn't shown nor is it believable. Thus it isn't valid.

Captain Marvel matched WWIII BA so that is why him being more powerful than a non holding back Superman is unbelievable.

Originally posted by Badabing
WW III BA had his powers plus the powers of Isis. It was stated that Isis was more powerful than BA also. So all the talk of everyone jobbing in WW III is a bit exaggerated.

BA on his own is a peer of Supes, more or less.

I agree but you also have to look at the fact that Adams durability was kind of jacked during that run. Martian Manhunters heat vision almost took him out and Superman heat vision>Martians.

I think Supes blast would be the deciding factor of this battle along with his better durability showings.

^ MMH could do that to Superman's face provided Superman just fought several superhuman teams across the world also. And then some. Believe it.

Originally posted by h1a8
Captain Marvel matched WWIII BA so that is why him being more powerful than a non holding back Superman is unbelievable.

... the entire Marvel family got thrashed even.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ MMH could do that to Superman's face provided Superman just fought several superhuman teams across the world also. And then some. Believe it.Captain Marvel got his ass thrashed by WW3 Black Adam...

... the entire Marvel family got thrashed even.

It probably could but Adam durability showing throughout that arc still make me believe that Superman would pull a majority. The guy got shot in the arm with a bowing arrow and it went through him.

I know how powerful Adam is and WW3 BA, I would say that he is stronger but his durability isnt going to last against someone that is trying to take him out of the fight ASAP.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ MMH could do that to Superman's face provided Superman just fought several superhuman teams across the world also. And then some. Believe it.Captain Marvel got his ass thrashed by WW3 Black Adam...

... the entire Marvel family got thrashed even.

Not to mention Martian Manhunter, even though he jobs a lot.

And Superman was taking injuries in Death of Superman. More current versions had his jaw broken by Zod, and his arm broken by Doomsday.

Put Superman in the same scenerio as World War III Adam, and he'll be lucky to come out of it conscious, let alone injury free.