not really. you're claiming that 2/3 of the world water isn't enough to flood 1/3 of it. i'm cliaming it can, especially if you consider heavy downpour and the water under land gushing out as well....not to mention that i don't know of any place in the quran (or the bible) where it said that the whole world was flooded...but i'll double check.
Originally posted by Sado22
not really. you're claiming that 2/3 of the world water isn't enough to flood 1/3 of it. i'm cliaming it can, especially if you consider heavy downpour and the water under land gushing out as well....not to mention that i don't know of any place in the quran (or the bible) where it said that the whole world was flooded...but i'll double check.
Originally posted by Sado22
i think he means the GREAT flood. and he's right. there seems to be mention of it in India as well.
yes, floods would have been hugely dramatic to civilizations thousands of years ago.
Much like how all ancient cultures have Sun Gods. Things which are important to human survival tend to get mythology built around them.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
My point is that there is not enough water on the Earth to cover all the land on the Earth for 40 days.
The average ocean depth is 4km.
Over 40 days that's 100 meters of rain per day.
Then again, I'm not very good at math.
Anyway we know that didn't happen because no one mentions the whole "all the water vanishing" thing.
Originally posted by Robtard
Stands to reason if God-magic made the flood, then God-magic just made it go away.Don't understand the length of the flood though, when a week or two would have worked to kill all. Seems God just wanted Noah to float around needlessly, having incest in the Ark.
In all stories like the great flood, there is a grain of truth. Perhaps the flood did last 40 days.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
In all stories like the great flood, there is a grain of truth. Perhaps the flood did last 40 days.
I wouldn't go as far as to claim that certainly that they "all" have some truth, as I know plenty a bullshitter, but I feel what you're saying.
There likely was a (localized) flood 6-7k years (Neolithic era) ago in that region, as the last (great) ice-age came to an end and that's where the story originates from, just distorted and built upon during the centuries.
Then again, there's similar flood stories in ancient Sumerian myths, so the early Jews could have just copied the story as a teaching tool.
the bible doesn't speak of the world being 6000 years old. its been a while since i've read the bible (well, a LONG time actually) but i don't recall it beng there. not only that, but its a known fact even amidst chrstians that the whole 6000 year thing came in centuries later with the gregorian calender being used to trace biblical events. all this happened SIXTEEN CENTURIES after Christ.
Originally posted by Sado22
the bible doesn't speak of the world being 6000 years old. its been a while since i've read the bible (well, a LONG time actually) but i don't recall it beng there. not only that, but its a known fact even amidst chrstians that the whole 6000 year thing came in centuries later with the gregorian calender being used to trace biblical events. all this happened SIXTEEN CENTURIES after Christ.
Originally posted by Sado22
fundamental difference in opinion. but lets find common ground: whether its god or the idea of god, do you agree with me that its not his fault when people keep changing things around?
How can I agree with you?
It is like saying: let us agree that Santa Clause is very jolly. Santa Clause is not real, so in real terms, how can he be jolly?
In other words, if god is the creation of man, how is he 'to blame' or 'not to blame' for anything?
i think you're limiting my question to theism or atheism...consider it irrespective of the two. you don't have to believe in santa or not to see that the people who believe in him think of him as jolly.
i'm asking you that irrespective of your views on god, do you think he's to blame for all the cockups people carry out in his name?
Originally posted by Sado22
i think you're limiting my question to theism or atheism...consider it irrespective of the two. you don't have to believe in santa or not to see that the people who believe in him think of him as jolly.i'm asking you that irrespective of your views on god, do you think he's to blame for all the cockups people carry out in his name?
Sure, why not?
If god created us, then what we do reflects onto god in some way. If we created god, then god is a direct reflection of human behavior. Therefore, I cannot agree with you.
Don't worry, I still like you. 😄
BTW I'm not an atheist.