Originally posted by jalek moye
I think he makes it to pyron and loses, while he can't kill Dante he can temporarly beat him.
If Dante can freeze time, he can't beat him at all. He would most certainly be able to kill Dante otherwise. I doubt Dante regenerate from a lightsaber from head to heel if it should land.
So Mortal Pyron is a miniature Pyron?
Originally posted by Q'Aniliayea mortal pyron is just one thats the size of a large human.
If Dante can freeze time, he can't beat him at all. He would most certainly be able to kill Dante otherwise. I doubt Dante regenerate from a lightsaber from head to heel if it should land.So Mortal Pyron is a miniature Pyron?
I've never seen dante freeze time, so i guess i dont remember that. and has dante ever had his head cut off?
He can't shock \ affect something with the force without knowing where the thing he is trying to hit is,
The Force is a universal energy field that permeates everything. 'The Jedi believed that if they were in touch with the Force they were in touch with the world around them—it was through the Force that a Jedi could move objects without physically pushing them. The Force was thought to reside in a person's mind and feelings, and the Jedi taught that knowing the Force would allow them to know the feelings hidden inside someone else. A Jedi could also use the Force to peer into the myriad possibilities of the future, for the Force permeated through the very fabric of time itself.'
'The Force was thought to be the pure energy of awareness and consciousness itself. It linked all sentient and non-sentient things, all space, and all time. Thus, if you were aware of your contact with the Force, you were potentially aware of all things, places, persons and even all times: past, present and future. '
From Wookiepedia. A jedi is able to sense things through his/her connection which the force, so Starkiller would be able to sense the whereabouts of his opponents at most/all times, provided his opponents are connected to the force (which they would have to be else this thread would be spite).
the force is not just a thought it takes some type of concentration. even yoda wasnt that good.
It only sometimes requires deep concentration. Remember when Vader sent those onjects at Luke in Empire Strikes Back, with little effort? Or when he steals Hans blaster? Not to mention, Starkiller has been trained since an early age to use the force in an almost instinctive way.
I'll add something here:
Q'Anilia was a Miraluka. A race born blind. Yet they were considered among the most potent Jedi you could come across. The vision of eyes is eluding and no matter if you are visible, invisible or if you teleport you are not out of sight from a Jedi.
Especially not Jedi as powerful as Galen.
Galen was also able to bring down the Star Destroyer not because he was so strong, but because his link to the Force was so strong.
Yoda tricked a youngling once to move a heavy box. When the youngling approached the box to lift it, Yoda stopped her. He then told her to use the Force. The youngling used the Force and moved the box across the room. Yoda then asked her to lift it up with her hands, and she could not do it because it was too heavy. She was shocked that she could move such a heavy thing.
He said then that unlike a body, the Force is not limited by muscles. It was not heavy with the Force, because she did not expect it to be.
Originally posted by SuperLuigi
so you are telling me that he could generate the force faster that someone like yoda who has been doing this for hundreds of years?
Generate the Force? Are you thinking of a move in particular?
Originally posted by LLLLLink
What about mediclorians? And what is that race of creatures that cant be sensed by the Force?
Not sure what exactly you're asking revolving the midi-chlorians.
The Yuuzhan-Vong is an anomaly of the Force. Easily compared to a mutation for humans. Little is explained of how exactly, but supposedly midi-chlorians does not touch these anomalistic beings.
Originally posted by The Valiant
Who to say he couldn't be stunning Dante with his lighting? Or be far away? It wouldn't take long for him to paralyze Kratos and throw the Lightsaber at him.He easily takes it away with his TK. How?
He's fast, but i'm positive he's not invisible.
Kratos isn't all that durable. Yeah, I agree on the speed thing. As for Kratos, he'd probably shock him to death or Force Choke him, and he could be shocking Dante with 1 hand.
(I may not allow more "popping heads" so it can be a fair-fight. Not sure, though)
Exactly. Hes fast , not invisible. He beat Maris Brood who WAS invisible.
He would have to always deal with both at the same time, as any lapse in concentration on either one would bring about a death.
he has also been shown to deal with proxy pretty easily, and any "lapse in concentration" would be his demise.
The Dark Side is more powerful (this was said by Lucas).
Originally posted by OriginalA
Dante uses the Bangle of Time to stop time from moving. He is now the only character (of himself, Kratos, and Starkiller) that is aware or able to move. He cuts off Starkiller's head. The end.
Bangle of Time not allowed. Besides he has to lift his arm up, and by this time The Apprentice could have cut his head off.
Originally posted by K1ll3r
Okay, so he stuns Dante with lightning while Kratos slices his head off with his chain blades?Okay, because he can't take away his weapons while also stopping Dante.
I am also positive Starkiller hasn't reacted to speeds at which Dante can move.
He can't shock \ affect something with the force without knowing where the thing he is trying to hit is, I brang up him tracking Dante using the force however I think that would not be quick enough and Dante could slice him in half.
Like I said, he could be using Force Choke on Kratos.
He could easily keep Dante in the air, paralyzed. Kratos, on the other hand, would be getting choked or something.
The Force is unescapable.
Dante is fast, but he is not invisible. If he can with his regeneration. He's already know what they're going to do. Besides, he can do that "tornado" thing, and blow them away. Who's to say Galen Malek couldn't take one of them into the air (and by "them" I mean Kratos)? It (probably) would take long for him to pop Kratos' head.
"Bangle of Time not allowed. Besides he has to lift his arm up, and by this time The Apprentice could have cut his head off."
Okay after a quick check to make sure you are the TC (I tire of random people that are not the TC making new rules) and seeing that you are in fact the TC I will drop the point, but I would like to point out that Dante doesn't actually have to touch the Bangle or life his arm. It just works when he wants it to work; thats what it does. You are thinking of Quicksilver from DMC 3. The Bangle of Time is from DMC 1.
No, it's The Bangle of Time.
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Originally posted by SuperLuigi
the force is not just a thought it takes some type of concentration. even yoda wasnt that good.
They rarely have to concentrate. "Wasn't that good"? He trained nearly every damn Jedi, if not all of the Jedis.