Starkiller runs a gauntlet

Started by The Valiant10 pages

Originally posted by Wolverine2179
Haden blackman doesn't decide whats canon nor does he establishes. The officials do at LFL.

George lucas himself stated that anakin would have been the most powerful force user EVER had he not sustained his injuries on mustafar.

George lucas canon > haden blackmans.

Its true that hes an undeniable prodigy, but don't believe claims by blackman that he is potentially the most powerful force user ever when higher canon sources stated otherwise.

And don't even get me started on how you think he is potentially the most powerful force user ever, you must have never read Dark Empire where it shows palpatine at his prime(like you know, whose mere presence was able to turn a "lush and fertile world" into one of the most powerful dark side enriched planets in the galaxy)

What is performed in game isn't canon, gameplay mechanics aren't canon at all. Hell by going by gameplay mechanics people like han solo could easily shoot down and topple ATAT's with ease when in SW reality he can't.

And please do read the novel and comic, galen tried to use the force to stop the destroyer from crashing but his attempt was futile.

And hell palpatine was able to lift a super star destroyer and at the same time mind wipe almost the entire population of coruscant at the same time making them forget that theres a SSD beneth coruscants landscape, that alone refutes any claims that starkiller is potentially the most powerful force user ever.

Hell when he tried to turn on palpatine in the DS ending palpatine literally beats his ass without even getting a scrath on himself and then proceeds to grab a starship and crush galen with it.

Nobody is claiming that except the other ignorant members, he STILL can beat the vast majority of the combatants listed here, but he isn't as powerful as some people blindly believe he is.

I thought Lucas said the game was canon.

Originally posted by Q'Anilia
Where did you find this then?

Wookiepedia...I think.

Originally posted by The Valiant
I thought Lucas said the game was canon.

Much of it is.

Originally posted by Nephthys
No, Blackman's statement is true. When Anakin got his limbs chopped off, he lost the potential to become the most powerful ever. So although Galen wouldn't have been more powerful then full-potential Anakin, he would be more powerful then full-potential Vader, Sidious (Luke?) etc
Blackmans statement is not, again his opinions are not considered nor are they actually established as canon nor are they approved by LFL.

Lucas specifically stated that anakin would have been the most powerful force user ever had he sustained none of his injuries, that is a direct contradiction to haden blackmans biased opinions.

Originally posted by The Valiant
I thought Lucas said the game was canon.

Wookiepedia...I think.

It IS canon, i just said the gameplay mechancis isn't,

Originally posted by LLLLLink
That's exactly what I am saying, Nephthys.

Mediclorians reside in the body. If two people have the same concentration of mediclorians in their bodies, but one man has a larger body, he will be the man with the stronger influence over the Force.

That being said, every time Anakin lost his limbs, he lost a great deal of mediclorians, making him weaker in the Force. Although he mostly machine as Darth Vader, because Anakin is the Chosen One and has a mediclorian concentration that is "off the charts", he is still formidable in the Force.

Your are correct, just one minor problem is that losing midichlorians doesn't exactly make you weaker in the force but it does limit your potential to become stronger.

At least you have some knowledge on SW so good job to you 🙂

Lucas specifically stated that anakin would have been the most powerful force user ever had he sustained none of his injuries, that is a direct contradiction to haden blackmans biased opinions.

Exactly, but now that he cannot become the most powerful, someone else can. After Anakin lost his potential, Marek, with the second greatest potental, gets bumped up to number one.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Exactly, but now that he cannot become the most powerful, someone else can. After Anakin lost his potential, Marek, with the second greatest potental, gets bumped up to number one.
And yet again you ignore the fact that haden blackmans claims are not considered nor is it established canon. Random comments do not and will not equate to it being canon.

Haden blackman does not, i repeat, does not license canon material nor does he have the authority to make a claim and then establish it as canon.

And just read hadens claims Vader discovered this person who had the potential to be the most powerful Force user ever

Look at the word "ever", it basically is saying that even if anakin achieved his full potential, galen marek would have still surpassed him. Also "ever" applies from the start of star wars to the very end.

Theres the bullshit contradiction.

Hell look at this comment made by lucas even -

A conversation between Lucas and John Knoll in a web diary during the production of Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith showed more of the movie/Expanded Universe relationship:

So how did Anakin get that scar, George?" asks John Knoll

I don't know. Ask Howard," says George, referring to President of Lucas Licensing Howard Roffman. "That's one of those things that happens in the novels between the movies. I just put it there. He has to explain how it got there. I think Anakin got it slipping in the bathtub, but of course, he's not going to tell anybody that.

Now let me guess, if we were to accept randomly unapproved quotes from anybody, does that mean anakin really DID get his scar by slipping in a bath tub as lucas pointed out in a random comment?

And lastly, luke skywalker(other than palpatine) is the one that truly(after anakin) has the ability to be the most powerful force user ever, again doesn't haden blackman contradict this?

Marek isn't the second one to have that potential, luke skywalker and a full potential darth sidious do.

Oh wait theres more! And then theres darth nihilus, a being that could easily strip mareks connection to the force right before a spark even left mareks hand.

Seriously, there is nothing marek has done to substantiate the fact that he could be more powerful than luke, sidious or even nihilus.

He had a hell of a hardtime stopping a star destroyer from crashing when luke easily tore engines from star destryers and palaptine lifting a SSD.

But i'll be honest exodus, i hate marek as a character, hell i even find nihilus and revan more interesting that this excuse of a character.

Originally posted by Wolverine2179
[b]So how did Anakin get that scar, George?" asks John Knoll

I don't know. Ask Howard," says George, referring to President of Lucas Licensing Howard Roffman. "That's one of those things that happens in the novels between the movies. I just put it there. He has to explain how it got there. I think Anakin got it slipping in the bathtub, but of course, he's not going to tell anybody that.

Now let me guess, if we were to accept randomly unapproved quotes from anybody, does that mean anakin really DID get his scar by slipping in a bath tub as lucas pointed out in a random comment?[/B]

😂 I want to remember it being Ventress fault. Maybe I'm wrong mmm

nah

When did he get it then? I thought it was on Coruscant when he engaged Ventress and she cut him to prove that she could.

Isn't Blackman a writer of the Starwars universe (from what I heard)?

Originally posted by The Valiant
Isn't Blackman a writer of the Starwars universe (from what I heard)?

He authored TFU.

Don't how--what Black said doesn't count, but...yeahhhh...

It's quite simple really. Even though two or more authors work with the same serie (For example Blackman working with Star Wars), it does not necessarily make their opinion proper. Blackman stated Galen potentially the most powerful Force user, but he doesn't know everything. It all comes down to what is verified as actual canon, so while his opinion has some weight, it's not definate fact. It's more his professional opinion than actual canon when he says that.

Take Warcraft for example. Christie Golden and Richard Knaak are both working on canon lore. Yet they don't share the same vision of who is more or less powerful, or even pictures an actual event the same way.

Did any of that make sense? 😐

Yeahhhhh

Originally posted by Q'Anilia
When did he get it then? I thought it was on Coruscant when he engaged Ventress and she cut him to prove that she could.
Yes, he got it by ventress. I was simply pointing out random comments by anybody do not equate to it being actually true.

Such as lucas claiming he got his scar when falling in the bath tub and haden claiming galen potentially is the strongest dope ever.

Originally posted by Wolverine2179
Yes, he got it by ventress. I was simply pointing out random comments by anybody do not equate to it being actually true.

Such as lucas claiming he got his scar when falling in the bath tub and haden claiming galen potentially is the strongest dope ever.

The tub incident would have been awesome 😊

Thinking about it, yes it would indeed.