Originally posted by Q'Anilia
And that prove what exactly? Sargeras is not 10 meters thick or made of metal. He outsizes mountains. A man that tanked an attack that rumbled an entire landscape is considered a flee in comparison to Sargeras.You need to do better than that to even come close at injuring Sargeras. Has Sephiroth destroyed mountains? Cleaved diamonds?
Right, so what is he made of?
Sephiroth could will a mountain down, while slicing it into many itty bits in a few seconds.
Jenova 'tanked' atmospheric re-entry and meteoric landing, that 'cratored' an entire landscape, then went ahead to destroy a civilisation who created magic.
Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
I'm sure nothing Sephiroth could throw at Sargeras would even make him flinch. Not that he would have the chance - Sephiroth would be dead without even realizing what happened to him, just like in that fight with Cloud.Also, both Sargeras and Kil'jaeden have the ability to stop time. Not that they would need to use it or anything.
Sephiroth could easily slice through Archimonde and Kil'Jaeden, Sargeras was the one I was maybe about, nevertheless HOLY would take him down.
So does Sephiroth.
So they could do that, in less then a second? Bull, Sephiroth could easily react to Finger of Death, or even Greater Finger of Death considering the use of Mimic and his reactions.
Originally posted by Obsidian Fury
Sephiroth versus any one of these three is a major spite. Him against them as a team is not even worth calling a slaughter. He can't regenerate because there'll be nothing left to regenerate from. Archimonde turns him inside out and Sargeras accidentally vaporizes the puddle that remains from having been turned inside out. He then turns the battlefield into a raging inferno and erase the vapor. Next Sargeras drops a mountain where Sephiroth once was. Next Sargeras splits the planet in half and continues his quest to destroy the universe.
He still has his NL, he could sacrifice some of it to utilise the Jenova cells inside it to regen himself if he did die. Archimonde *tries* to turn him inside out, but Sephiroth has already sliced him in half, as well as Kil'Jaeden and summoned HOLY, destroying Sargeras.
Originally posted by Obsidian Fury
Oh yeah and Kil'Jaeden takes Sephiroth's soul and imprisons it before transporting it into the Twisting Nether where it'll float for all eternity or until Kil'Jaeden does the unlikely and remember this pathetic battle and decides to destroy the prison and shatter Sephiroth's soul in the process. Just for fun.
He would have to destroy his will to do that, which I highly doubt he could. Also I don't think Sephiroth has a Warcraft defined soul, so I think Sephiroth is safe because of the difference? (There is no defined soul in FF7, people are people with no immaterial version of themselves (except they are made of the lifestream)) He would have to take his consciousness (or Will).
Originally posted by K1ll3r
Right, so what is he made of?Sephiroth could will a mountain down, while slicing it into many itty bits in a few seconds.
Jenova 'tanked' atmospheric re-entry and meteoric landing, that 'cratored' an entire landscape, then went ahead to destroy a civilisation who created magic.
Sephiroth could easily slice through Archimonde and Kil'Jaeden, Sargeras was the one I was maybe about, nevertheless HOLY would take him down.
So does Sephiroth.
So they could do that, in less then a second? Bull, Sephiroth could easily react to Finger of Death, or even Greater Finger of Death considering the use of Mimic and his reactions.
He still has his NL, he could sacrifice some of it to utilise the Jenova cells inside it to regen himself if he did die. Archimonde *tries* to turn him inside out, but Sephiroth has already sliced him in half, as well as Kil'Jaeden and summoned HOLY, destroying Sargeras.
He would have to destroy his will to do that, which I highly doubt he could. Also I don't think Sephiroth has a Warcraft defined soul, so I think Sephiroth is safe because of the difference? (There is no defined soul in FF7, people are people with no immaterial version of themselves (except they are made of the lifestream)) He would have to take his consciousness (or Will).
How sad. I'd bother arguing this with you, but I know you can't prove any of it (Except possibly the irrelevant re-entery thing). You'll just repeat the things you've said all along, which isn't proof of any kind. And no, you CAN'T prove most it, so no need to even say you can. You can only theorize. There's nothing backing you up on as good as all those statements. Only your own theories.
Originally posted by K1ll3r
So they could do that, in less then a second? Bull, Sephiroth could easily react to Finger of Death, or even Greater Finger of Death considering the use of Mimic and his reactions.He still has his NL, he could sacrifice some of it to utilise the Jenova cells inside it to regen himself if he did die. Archimonde *tries* to turn him inside out, but Sephiroth has already sliced him in half, as well as Kil'Jaeden and summoned HOLY, destroying Sargeras.
He would have to destroy his will to do that, which I highly doubt he could. Also I don't think Sephiroth has a Warcraft defined soul, so I think Sephiroth is safe because of the difference? (There is no defined soul in FF7, people are people with no immaterial version of themselves (except they are made of the lifestream)) He would have to take his consciousness (or Will).
Can you prove this? To me, it seems you're full of . . . what was that word you used? Bull.
Originally posted by Phanteros
wait since when did sephiroth cut down a mountain????
He has been capable of it, tell me, is 10 meter of steel\metal tougher then 10 meters of mountain? Have you seen how long his blade beams are?
Originally posted by Slaanesh
any of the 3 can stomp Sephiroth on their own..
Lies and slander.
Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
Sargeras was immune to the Demon Soul, which can disintegrate/delete from existence pretty much anything(among many other powers it has). So what has HOLY ever done, anyway?For all I have ever seen, there's nothing but fanboy wishful thinking surrounding Sephiroth.
HOLY was going to destroy a planet. (Before the lifestream stopped it).
Originally posted by Q'Anilia
How sad. I'd bother arguing this with you, but I know you can't prove any of it (Except possibly the irrelevant re-entery thing). You'll just repeat the things you've said all along, which isn't proof of any kind. And no, you CAN'T prove most it, so no need to even say you can. You can only theorize. There's nothing backing you up on as good as all those statements. Only your own theories.
Think about it, he can hold down a planet destroying attack with his mind, surely that means something? Or the fact he could just materialise Mako, enough of it to obliterate any mountain. Rock is not stronger then metal, one of his blade beams would topple mountains.
(Get your own sword, swing away at a side of a mountain, you will probably slice in several centimeters, now go swing your sword on a cannon and watch your sword break).
Jenova would use the planets it defeated to travel to another planet. Okay? Now it used that planet like a spaceship and went through atmospheric re-entry and crashed into the planet.
Show me Kil'Jaedens and Archimondes durability if you think Sephiroth can't cut them. HOLY is capable of destroying planets "HOLY is having the opposite affect, forget Midgar, we gotta worry about the whole planet!" - Red on HOLY.
Sephiroth has time manipulating spells.
Okay, in the first game, Jenovas head reforms from being in the lifestream. If Jenova can do that, Sephiroth could do it much easier with his own lifestream and cells!
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Sephiroth absorbs himself into the lifestream and uses a giant Mako 'laser' in Sargeras to kill him. Then he uses HOLY. Then does another Mako 'laser' in the center of the planet they are fighting on for fun. Then reforms himself and takes what is left of the planet away to the next fight.
Originally posted by Obsidian Fury
Can you prove this? To me, it seems you're full of . . . what was that word you used? Bull.
Mimic reads the thoughts and memories of beings, Sephiroth would know everything they knew. Possibly even how they do thier spells. Jenova used this to create personalities so it could infilitrate alien societies.
Well, a red beam capable of destroying someone, or an attack able to destroy a planet.
Jenova has already reformed it's head from being in the lifestream, Sephiroth would do it easier with his own lifestream and cells.
Sephiroth doesn't have a Warcraft 3 soul, there is no souls in FF7. Just consciousness.
Originally posted by K1ll3r
Mimic reads the thoughts and memories of beings, Sephiroth would know everything they knew. Possibly even how they do thier spells. Jenova used this to create personalities so it could infilitrate alien societies.Well, a red beam capable of destroying someone, or an attack able to destroy a planet.
Jenova has already reformed it's head from being in the lifestream, Sephiroth would do it easier with his own lifestream and cells.
Sephiroth doesn't have a Warcraft 3 soul, there is no souls in FF7. Just consciousness.
1. All mentioned parts of that paragraph fits for Kil'Jaeden as well. Really, there's not a single difference. The significant turnpoint is that Kil'Jaeden is able to make an exact copy of Sephiroth, abilities and all. Not that they need it, but who is better to beat Sephiroth than Sephiroth himself.
2. I take it the beam is shot instantaneously and you've seen it destroy planets.
3. Having reformed his head sounds like a mighty fine feat. Too bad he'd have nothing to be reformed from. Really, Sephiroth would be less than a stain on the ground. And even if they couldn't kill him, he'd never have a chance killing them. They would just smite him every time he regenerate, until Sargeras or Kil'Jaeden grew bored and would decide to imprison him in the Twisting Nether.
4. Funny you should say that. The Warcraft soul represent the consciousness. This was proved by Kil'Jaeden in fact, who just wanted Ner'Zhuls consciousness and took it. For what is a soul if not consciousness incarnate?
Originally posted by Obsidian Fury
1. All mentioned parts of that paragraph fits for Kil'Jaeden as well. Really, there's not a single difference. The significant turnpoint is that Kil'Jaeden is able to make an exact copy of Sephiroth, abilities and all. Not that they need it, but who is better to beat Sephiroth than Sephiroth himself.2. I take it the beam is shot instantaneously and you've seen it destroy planets.
3. Having reformed his head sounds like a mighty fine feat. Too bad he'd have nothing to be reformed from. Really, Sephiroth would be less than a stain on the ground. And even if they couldn't kill him, he'd never have a chance killing them. They would just smite him every time he regenerate, until Sargeras or Kil'Jaeden grew bored and would decide to imprison him in the Twisting Nether.
4. Funny you should say that. The Warcraft soul represent the consciousness. This was proved by Kil'Jaeden in fact, who just wanted Ner'Zhuls consciousness and took it. For what is a soul if not consciousness incarnate?
1. xD He would not be able to re-create Sephiroth, and if he did, Sephiroth would be able to control the clone.
2. I was talking about Greater Finger of Death, if it is greater then holy then it is able to possibly kill Sephiroth. If not Sephiroth could just hold it back with his will.
3. Nothing to be reformed from? Jenova cells in his NL + NL.
4. Okay, let's see them ever having taken out a 'consciousness' that was able to stop a planet destroying attack, technically I don't think they could stop a planet destroying attack (with their will, which Sephiroth can), or even create one. To be honest I have no idea what a soul is.
Originally posted by Burning thought
The fact Holy could destroy meteor does not mean it can destroy the planet, sorry but no...and the fact Sephiroth stopped it is not impressive nad never will be, Holy is of an unkown weight or force.
Eh? Holy destroying Meteor was so close the the planet was going to destroy the planet, according to Nanaki. It has a force of AT LEAST 1800+ tonnes. Even without that, Greater Finger of Death would not create more force then Holy, meaning Sephiroth could easily stop it with his will.
Originally posted by Phanteros
so far all i heard from Killer is specualation of stuff that sephiroth didn't do, so i'm still with the Burning Legion
Like what? His Blade Beams are many miles wide apart and can slice through many metres of metal and continue for another many many miles, if he used the exact same attack on a mountain would it just stop on it? Or would it slice through just as easily as it did on the metal?
Originally posted by Q'Anilia
Just another "absence/proof/proof/absence" person 😛
Show me, what part haven't I proven and I will show you some qoutes\videos\other.