Originally posted by kgkg
Where did it say Thor was holding back? When Thor came back and attacked Rulk he was already fighting Hulk and was heating up from his constant battles. Neither one really won but I would give Rulk the edge there from what we saw.
Originally posted by kgkg
GM is able to stop time , bring people back from the dead and is considered extremely powerful. If I recall correctly even Galactus noticed his power to be his equal even though that wasn't the case. Anyway GM is a very powerful character. Any other incidence <issue #> where GM is knocked out?
Originally posted by kgkg
Why does it have to be idiocy when we don't even know how his powers works? We have seen him own a Watcher and even Loeb has teased the readers few times about this. Rulk was able to steal the Power Cosmic out of Surfer. He seem to be able to do the impossible.
...Unless you're Superboy Prime...
Originally posted by id369
Lobo written by Keith Giffen is just as silly if not more.When I say silly I mean insanely powerful.
Rulk's a disaster. It's written for 10 year olds...except it isn't, because he makes lame comments about having fun naked on Surfer's board. 😐
WTF?
Originally posted by EnyalusHmm when was Gm amped if anything Zemo was amped. It took Zemo with moonstones and the power of the entire wellspring to stop GM. Even than Zemo admitted that no amount of power can stop the GM. Zemo never overpowered GM he took away his powers.
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Yeah, but I asked what he's done physically. He's been overpowered by Baron Zemo even while GM was amped. And Zemo's listed as high herald. [/B]
And Zemo using the stone is well above High Herald imo.
Because even by comic logic, if someone is literally barred from Death's Realm, then you can't just...kill them. With your fists. In two hits. 😐 ...Unless you're Superboy Prime...Rulk is just that type of character.
Originally posted by kgkg
Hmm when was Gm amped if anything Zemo was amped. It took Zemo with moonstones and the power of the entire wellspring to stop GM. Even than Zemo admitted that no amount of power can stop the GM. Zemo never overpowered GM he took away his powers.
Originally posted by kgkg
And Zemo using the stone is well above High Herald imo.
Originally posted by kgkg
Rulk is just that type of character.
😱 That's why Bada likes him!!
Originally posted by Enyalus[/B]
Zemo beats him twice. The first time, it is GM standing in the center of the Universal Wellspring (so I am assuming GM is amped there), and Zemo overpowers him with an energy blasts in like three panels, breaks him down into pure energy and disperses him throughout time, since he cannot kill GM because of him being an Elder of the Universe.He BFR him something Zemo is capable of. Grandmaster knew that Zemo will need to revive him in order to save the world. It was part of his game plan. In a strait battle Zemo knew that he could not defeat him.
Zemo later needs GMs assistance, brings him back. In that instance, Zemo is amped by the Wellspring, overrides GM's immortality, and shoots him in the head with a pistol, killing him. That I guess should speak volumes about his durability...his immortality was taken away, nothing else was hinted at...yet he was killed by a 1940's handgun bullet. 😛
as for Rulk killing an elder it's not completely impossible Korvac was able to do it with raw force. But Rulk killing Elder can be explained maybe there is more to Rulk 😉
Originally posted by kgkg
🤨 GM was powerless at that point. Able to handle the energy of the moonstones and being able to survive the energy of the Wellspring is a showing of immense durability for GM. When Zemo shot him GM was powerless that's why he could not do anything about it.
Ahh, he took all their powers away, not just the immortality. I have it, just been a while since looking at it, so thanks for correcting me. That makes more sense, durability wise.
Are you sure GM let himself be beaten by Zemo the first time? I don't remember that being insinuated. After he was defeated they knew they'd need GM again, yes. But GM had what he wanted at that point. I don't see why he'd let himself be defeated if he had what he wanted in his possession - the Wellspring.
On another note: Zemo's one badass Nazi.
Originally posted by EnyalusNP. Still a great feat for Zemo.
Ahh, he took all their powers away, not just the immortality. I have it, just been a while since looking at it, so thanks for correcting me. That makes more sense, durability wise.
Are you sure GM let himself be beaten by Zemo the first time? I don't remember that being insinuated. After he was defeated they knew they'd need GM again, yes. But GM had what he wanted at that point. I don't see why he'd let himself be defeated if he had what he wanted in his possession - the Wellspring.It's never been insinuated but Olive was put in place for that very reason.
On another note: Zemo's one badass Nazi.Ya he is am not sure if I remember did Genis stalemate him? I Remember reading it a while back can't remember the details.
no one beats Rulk.
Rulk is the save scummer, the Game Genie, the anti-nerfer,
Infinity Plus One Sword,, the Kaiba's Envoy and the Shahrazad cards,
the IMP, the Great Unclean One,the Unlabored Flawlessnes, the Ice Climbers
Freeze Glitch, the above Omega-Level mutant, the Spamwich, The End spell,
Thundergod Cid,The Wyrmhero Blade, The Accuracy International AWP, and
everything else in one, x100.
just the way it is.
Originally posted by Enyalus
Not...really. His two highest feats, IMO, were beating a Thor who was holding back, and that two-shotting of GM. Now, Thor came back and was in the process of absolutely taking him apart, and GM...well, what physical feats does he have? He is definitely not in the ballpark of a Superman or other peak heralds durability or strength-wise. Plus, the fact that he killed someone who is immortal is basically Loeb-PIS at its best and should probably be disregarded as idiocy on the forums.
Holding back? Thor wanted to kill him, didn't he? 😕
Credit goes to Takion.
Originally posted by kgkg
Ya he is am not sure if I remember did Genis stalemate him? I Remember reading it a while back can't remember the details.
Originally posted by kgkg
GM is so powerful that he able to give Kang Immortality and power to defeat Avenger including Thor with ease. 😉Also CM saying his powers is greater than Cosmic Cube
Enyalus what make you say that he is low trans 😉
Grandmaster used the Universal Wellspring when he first created the Sinister Squadron and gave Speed Demon and the others their powers. Whose to say that was Grandmaster's own personal Power Primordial amping Kang? 😛
