the NEW GODS vs EXITAR

Started by Enyalus10 pages

Originally posted by leonheartmm
heres my reason for making this thread. people think that celestials are powerful enough to individually effect and perhaps even destroy the universe and simultaneously take out almost all the mystical beings in th world combined. but at the same time, they cant individually beat galactus who on panel is never shown to have universe busting capabilities or even close to it. seems pretty inconsistant to me.

Once again I see you don't know what you're talking about. Even the birth of an average Celestial rivals the explosion of the Big Bang. You're talking about Exitar here, perhaps the second strongest Celestial in the canon universe. And Galactus has enough power to simultaneously destroy both the 616 universe and the Negative Zone, per Annihilation.

Originally posted by Enyalus
I don't think things like Omega Sanction, etc, work on beings more powerful than the user.

And Exitar definitely trumps Darkseid by several magnitudes.

Ok. But I disagree, Omega Sanction is the fundamental force of restriction, his entire point is to suffocate freedom.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Once again I see you don't know what you're talking about. Even the birth of an average Celestial rivals the explosion of the Big Bang. You're talking about Exitar here, perhaps the second strongest Celestial in the canon universe. And Galactus has enough power to simultaneously destroy both the 616 universe and the Negative Zone, per Annihilation.

no, galactus's DEATH has the power to do that, because he acts as a fundamental balance between eternity and death. HE himself as an entity does NOT. his best non vs feat wud probably be releasing the energy sphere surrounding two solar systems in annihlation. a non starving galactus was beaten by aegis and tenebris. wud you by extention, say that both of them have near universe destroying power? i think not.

and are you saying that a single celestial is compareable in power to eternity????? hogwash

and, ur post is baiting.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
no, galactus's DEATH has the power to do that, because he acts as a fundamental balance between eternity and death. HE himself as an entity does NOT. his best non vs feat wud probably be releasing the energy sphere surrounding two solar systems in annihlation. a non starving galactus was beaten by aegis and tenebris. wud you by extention, say that both of them have near universe destroying power? i think not.

Galactus has the power within him to destroy those two universes. Its like Monarch's armor, etc. All of his power released, two destroy two universes (one of which is a multiverse). And yes, Aegis and Tenebrous are both Galactus-level primordial beings who are universal-level powers. Their Nova Corps bios even spell that out.

they are not however, universe BUSTERS. and thats my point. galactus doesnt have the power WITHING him, he is a KEY to the unbalance which destroyes its own self. i.e. the balance between life and death which keeps the universe going. and this itself has been portrayed inconcistantly, after all, galactus DID die. and nuthing happened, only the release of abraxas, who in turn had to use the ultimate nullifier to kill alternate versions of galactus, which in turn is said to be part of galactus, which if taken at face value, makes no sense, since galactus is dead, and its never clear if abraxas is a part of eternity or a new concept altogether. and then franklin richards, a celestial level being in one interpretation, resurrects galactus, which wud make him above 2 universe busting levels at that point in time if we are to take your claim seriously, which wud make every single celestial, an unparalleled superior to galactus. you see where im going with this.

Almost none of what you said is true.

I don't know why I expected different.

And **** it - Exitar wins.

^your a child. stop baiting, no1 invited you to speak or have a conversation in the first place.

the one you want is "you're". 🙂

Originally posted by leonheartmm
^your a child. stop baiting, no1 invited you to speak or have a conversation in the first place.

You're the one who chimmed in, after the conversation I was participating had already begun, when you essentially admitted to this being a bait thread.

^cant be bothered. and the very fact that you knew what it meant is enough to not add to it, language is about communication.

Originally posted by Enyalus
You're the one who chimmed in, after the conversation I was participating had already begun, when you essentially admitted to this being a bait thread.

errrm, i created this thread. i also posted that comment not in relation to any of the previous comments but a stand alone, which shud be obvious since i didnt mention or quote any1. and your comprehension skills are lacking, i referred to your POST as baiting when you said i didnt know what i was talking about and started a conversation when i had never referred to you.

Every single NG VS one Celestial???
LOLWUT?

Seems spitey to me. But meh.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
errrm, i created this thread. i also posted that comment not in relation to any of the previous comments but a stand alone, which shud be obvious since i didnt mention or quote any1. and your comprehension skills are lacking, i referred to your POST as baiting when you said i didnt know what i was talking about and started a conversation when i had never referred to you.

Your information was wrong. Like it usually is. I was correcting you. I can do that.

Exitar FTW.

enyalus, stop with the ad hominem attacks. you didnt correct me since you never countered me with any feats. while my whole argument was based in feats.

exitar

hey guys. if arishem the judge doesn't give the coded instruction to exitar the exterminator, he's going to just float there vacantly.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
heres my reason for making this thread. people think that celestials are powerful enough to individually effect and perhaps even destroy the universe

During the Black Galaxy Saga an average Celestial being born was an event stated to rival the Big Bang itself. That would classify as being universal level. In the newest GOTG and Nova series, a decapitated Celestial's head had a map and teleporter to and for the entire multiverse. In recent Uncanny X-Men issues (507 IIRC), a lobotomized Celestial, using its knowledge, was capable of reversing Wanda's "No More Mutants" spell and repower Magneto. Wanda affected the entire omniverse with that order, by the way. These are average Celestials for the most part.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
and simultaneously take out almost all the mystical beings in th world combined. but at the same time, they cant individually beat galactus who on panel is never shown to have universe busting capabilities or even close to it. seems pretty inconsistant to me.

1) Odin has busted entire galaxies before. More than once. He's also shaken the foundations of the entire multiverse. Yet, even he, amped, could do nothing to Arishem. Exitar is more powerful than Arishem. Furthermore, Kubik, who can warp an entire universe, stated that he was no match for any Celestial. Galactus has 'universe-busting capabilities' - the energy he contains within his shell was shown to be enough to destroy the 616 multiverse and the Negative Zone at the same time. This was while he was extremely weakened and starving. This was in Annihilation. Oh, and not being able to beat Galactus? Tiamut during the Black Celestial Saga was shown as being Galactus' superior, and in the Eternals series when Tiamut finally awoke, it stated that Galactus finally knew fear.

Enough feats for you?? Good. I'm done.

Exitar wins.

Originally posted by Enyalus
I don't think things like Omega Sanction, etc, work on beings more powerful than the user.

And Exitar definitely trumps Darkseid by several magnitudes.


it worked on BATMAN
NGs take this

Originally posted by manx422
it worked on BATMAN
NGs take this

lmao

I was sincerely expecting you to say "ORION SOLOS"

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