Cyborg Superman vs Ultron (Annihilation: Conquest)

Who can take over who's tech first?

🙁 Board's consensus is that Cyborg wins. I did this before.

Originally posted by Enyalus
🙁 Board's consensus is that Cyborg wins. I did this before.

Booo!

Originally posted by D_Dude1210
Booo!

But hey.

Originally posted by Enyalus
I knows. 🙁 I think since his Phalanx tech allows him to take over organic as well as machine life, he's got an edge over Henshaw's cyborg body.

But hey.

That's what I was thinking, too. Also, the Ultron took over the Phalanx (who wielded the T.O. Virus) thru sheer willpower alone. A whole race of machines that do nothing but take over other machines (and organics) getting taken over themselves, absolutely pwning them in their own game.

I dunno, seems like that feat kicks ass. What's Henshaw's top feat?

Originally posted by D_Dude1210
That's what I was thinking, too. Also, the Ultron took over the Phalanx (who wielded the T.O. Virus) thru sheer willpower alone. A whole race of machines that do nothing but take over other machines (and organics) getting taken over themselves, absolutely pwning them in their own game.

I dunno, seems like that feat kicks ass. What's Henshaw's top feat?

Controlling a piece of the Source Wall. That feat alone has posters on this board cockstroking Cyborg.

Originally posted by D_Dude1210
I dunno, seems like that feat kicks ass. What's Henshaw's top feat?

He's also taken over New God tech, although I don't think he can take over a Motherbox.

Originally posted by Enyalus
It took him several months to manipulate a small portion of the Source Wall...

He's also taken over New God tech, although I don't think he can take over a Motherbox.

Did the source wall fight back? O_o

Originally posted by D_Dude1210
Did the source wall fight back? O_o

Originally posted by Enyalus
It took him several months to manipulate a small portion of the Source Wall...

He's also taken over New God tech, although I don't think he can take over a Motherbox.

That feat in Conquest is easily comparable to any of Cyborg's feat. He took over the entire race just by sheer will.

Originally posted by D_Dude1210
Did the source wall fight back? O_o

Yeah, I don't think it's sentient.

So his best feat is taking several months to take over passive, non sentient (tho very advanced) tech that had automatic defenses?

He had no problem near instantly taking over NG tech.

Tech is tech, thing is Ultron took over SENTIENT tech. NG is far more advanced, but it wasn't sentient (aka. didn't actively fight back).

I don't even think NG tech is far more advanced. Per Legacy, ALL Shi'ar tech is sentient, and the Phalanx has taken over a lot of their stuff. They also literally sealed off an entire galaxy (the Kree's) with uber shielding.

Originally posted by Enyalus
I don't even think NG tech is far more advanced. Per Legacy, ALL Shi'ar tech is sentient, and the Phalanx has taken over a lot of their stuff. They also literally sealed off an entire galaxy (the Kree's) with uber shielding.

Agreed. I meant that EVEN IF NG tech was far more advanced, Henshaw basically took over tech that doesn't have any sentience to allow them to resist tech takeover. Granted, they might have some passive defenses, but tech sophistication is trumped by willpower/sentience in terms of tech takeover resistance IMO.

In all fairness, Avlon is liable to come in and pwn me with a plethora of scans about Henshaw's tech feats. I know he's taken over Kryptonian tech easily, too. And Warworld. And Manhunter tech. Etc. He has lots of feats.

I happen to think Ultron can beat him per Conquest.

Way i see it, they are substantionally similar now, and have the same basic powerset. But Ultron edges Hank by willpower all the way.

It goes like this.

Henshaw: I so wanna die...
Ultron: I can kill you off for good
CS: O RLY?
U: YA RLY!
Thin Ultron wins.

Henshaw has no body. so Ultron taking over one body is irrelevant. And nothing in marvel is equal to new god technology. It is on a completely different level. He has seized control of Apokolips itself.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Henshaw has no body. so Ultron taking over one body is irrelevant. And nothing in marvel is equal to new god technology. It is on a completely different level. He has seized control of Apokolips itself.

So, what you're saying is that since he's conquered non-sentient New God tech, he's automatically better than any type of tech-conquering feat that any Marvel character can accomplish?