Cyborg Superman vs Ultron (Annihilation: Conquest)

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WhiteWitchKing Senior Member
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Henshaw has no body. so Ultron taking over one body is irrelevant. And nothing in marvel is equal to new god technology. It is on a completely different level. He has seized control of Apokolips itself.

But Ultron does? WTF?

Yes, let's cockstroke NG tech and ignore the Phalanx and Tenarchy. Please don't act as if the Phalanx couldn't do the same to Apokolips when it's already done so galaxy wide empires.

darthgoober Senior Member

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Henshaw has no body. so Ultron taking over one body is irrelevant. And nothing in marvel is equal to new god technology. It is on a completely different level. He has seized control of Apokolips itself.

Really Trick... ANYTHING in Marvel? Come on now lets not get silly...

TricksterPriest Renegade Timelord

Celestials are not up there, nor are any of the races. Merlyn has that crystal thing so that might be up there. Galactus too. But that is it. there is nothing else that compares to NG tech.

darthgoober Senior Member

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Celestials are not up there, nor are any of the races. Merlyn has that crystal thing so that might be up there. Galactus too. But that is it. there is nothing else that compares to NG tech.

I'm curious as to what makes you think so. What uber feats has New Gods tech pulled off that's beyond the tech of Doom or Reed? I know the Genesis Box restarted a universe, but I heard that's non-canon and an alternate reality Reed built a machine that took down LT and the rest of the abstracts simultaneously...

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Originally posted by darthgoober
I'm curious as to what makes you think so. What uber feats has New Gods tech pulled off that's beyond the tech of Doom or Reed? I know the Genesis Box restarted a universe, but I heard that's non-canon and an alternate reality Reed built a machine that took down LT and the rest of the abstracts simultaneously...

yeah, i agree. NG tech is solid, but it is NOT heads-and-shoulders above 'everything else'. and it's about time frickin time marvel had someone to match henshaw.

kgkg Vigilante

It's hard to beat Reed's tech

TricksterPriest Renegade Timelord

Originally posted by darthgoober
I'm curious as to what makes you think so. What uber feats has New Gods tech pulled off that's beyond the tech of Doom or Reed? I know the Genesis Box restarted a universe, but I heard that's non-canon and an alternate reality Reed built a machine that took down LT and the rest of the abstracts simultaneously...
what the? who said rock of ages is not canon? I spent 6 pages proving it was. the new gods are multiversal in nature and they have been shown to recoqnize alternate timelines. That was a central point of the story. Metron and DS both remembered the timeline as did Orion. The respect thread for metron has the evidence.

as for other feats, how about stopping the godwave? Or piercing the source wall? or hiding an entire dimension from the anti-monitor and the creation destroying blast?

or the mobius chair? or the motherbox itself? or the device Metron created to cure Highfather of the madness of the Source? Hell, the frigging boomtube itself?

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Meh, the ultimate nullifyer matches that tech at least.

Destorying/Re-creating the multiverse is pretty impressive as far as tech goes.

Then again, Galactus is somewhat of an anomoly as far as tech goes in the MU...

darthgoober Senior Member

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
what the? who said rock of ages is not canon? I spent 6 pages proving it was. the new gods are multiversal in nature and they have been shown to recoqnize alternate timelines. That was a central point of the story. Metron and DS both remembered the timeline as did Orion. The respect thread for metron has the evidence.

When did you prove it was? I mean what thread was it in and I'll take a look? Personally I think it'd be funny as Hell for DS to have a loss to GA and the Atom...

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
as for other feats, how about stopping the godwave? Or piercing the source wall? or hiding an entire dimension from the anti-monitor and the creation destroying blast?

I thought Takion stopped the Godwave? And could you provide more details on "piercing the Source Wall"? As for the Antimonitor, doesn't the 5th dimension reside outside of the typical DC Universe? If it wasn't within the area effected by the universe being restarted it doesn't seem like much of a feat(like when Warlock and company were unaffected when Thanos absorbed all of creation).

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
or the mobius chair?

A chair that flies/teleports through time and space... you really think that's leaps and bounds above the stuff that exists in Marvel?

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
or the motherbox itself?

Motherboxes are impressive(no doubt), but what uber feats do they have that puts them ahead of Marvel's tech? I've heard several people put them on par with Thor's hammer, which means they're likely on par with things like the Quantum and Negabands.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
or the device Metron created to cure Highfather of the madness of the Source?

A cure for insanity... well that's useful and all, but I'm still not seeing how it's so far beyond Marvel's tech. I mean unless your claiming that it's >Source, which seems more like a low showing for the Source than anything.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Hell, the frigging boomtube itself?

How is it more impressive than the tech that allows someone to enter and exit the Microverse?

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Originally posted by darthgoober
I thought Takion stopped the Godwave?

I don't know what Trick is talking about. The Godwave rebounded back from beyond the edges of nothingness and collapsed like a singularity-type thingy into the Source itself, where it was amplifying, etc. Darkseid built a machine to tap into that power but never used it because ta da, Ares got inside the Source first and gained control of the Godwave himself.

NG tech had nothing to do with stopping the Godwave.

TricksterPriest Renegade Timelord

Darkseid used his tech to freeze Ares in space&time immobilizing him long enough for the heroes to find a way to stop him.

Genesis #3-4 [Vol.1]
Here Darkseid captures Ares, the God of War who actually currently possessed the God Wave. Very impressive

1. http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii315/darkseidres2/Genesis3pg03-1.jpg
2. http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii315/darkseidres2/Genesis3pg04.jpg
3. http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii315/darkseidres2/Genesis3pg05.jpg
4. http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii315/darkseidres2/Genesis4pg14.jpg
5. http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii315/darkseidres2/Genesis4pg15.jpg
6. http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii315/darkseidres2/Genesis4pg16.jpg
7. http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii315/darkseidres2/Genesis4pg17.jpg

Props to K-M. 👆

D_Dude1210 Doink!

DS tech is not NG tech unless you're willing to say Reed tech is Marvel Earth tech.

TricksterPriest Renegade Timelord

But Darkseid created most of the technology on Apokolips. And He's the dictator in charge of the entire planet. There is no comparison to Reed at all.

Where the hell are you going with this point? 🤨 He is certainly a fair representative of New God tech. Hell, Metron is closer to being analogous to Reed in terms of tech, given his level compared to most new gods. And DS has outsmarted Metron quite a few times and worked with him as a peer.

D_Dude1210 Doink!

My point is that stories are progressed using tech as a plot device sometimes. You can't use these prep-devices as a general standard of the tech level of a civilization.

Edit. Changed "oftentimes" to "sometimes".

darthgoober Senior Member

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Darkseid used his tech to freeze Ares in space&time immobilizing him long enough for the heroes to find a way to stop him.

Genesis #3-4 [Vol.1]
Here Darkseid captures Ares, the God of War who actually currently possessed the God Wave. Very impressive

1. http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii315/darkseidres2/Genesis3pg03-1.jpg
2. http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii315/darkseidres2/Genesis3pg04.jpg
3. http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii315/darkseidres2/Genesis3pg05.jpg
4. http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii315/darkseidres2/Genesis4pg14.jpg
5. http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii315/darkseidres2/Genesis4pg15.jpg
6. http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii315/darkseidres2/Genesis4pg16.jpg
7. http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii315/darkseidres2/Genesis4pg17.jpg

Props to K-M. 👆


That's not really the same thing as "stopping the Godwave" is it? I mean would you say that Thanos's tech stopped the infinite energies of the Power Gem when he froze Thor(who possessed the Power Gem at the time)?

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Thanos' tech has stopped infinite energy before. More than once. His tech shields stopped Galactus' blast. Galactus has 'infinite power' contained within him. And they've stopped Omega, twice as powerful as Galactus.

😉 😄

Oh, and Thanos' ship contains 'near infinite' energy onboard.

D_Dude1210 Doink!

is near infinte = infinity -1? O_O

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Originally posted by D_Dude1210
is near infinte = infinity -1? O_O

No. Its "a very very very large number that is finite, but I'm way too lazy to count that high so I'm just gonna short-cut it and say 'near-infinite'."

D_Dude1210 Doink!

But if it's a very very very large number, wouldn't a very very very VERY VERY large number be closer to near infinite than a very very very large number is?

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Originally posted by D_Dude1210
But if it's a very very very large number, wouldn't a very very very VERY VERY large number be closer to near infinite than a very very very large number is?

Sure, but I was lazy and didn't feel like counting even higher to tack on two extra VERYs, so I half-assed it. And called it near infinite.